MT82 lockout issues

[slow5ohh]

I’ve got a 2013 5.0, and have noticed that there is very bad lockout when trying to shift at any rpm’s higher than about ~6k in every gear pretty much. How should I go about making it so I can shift at higher rpm’s?

 

[Red-Candy-Metallic]

I’ve got a 2013 5.0, and have noticed that there is very bad lockout when trying to shift at any rpm’s higher than about ~6k in every gear pretty much. How should I go about making it so I can shift at higher rpm’s?

I have a 2012 GT that I have owned since it was new. I never noticed the problem on the street, but once I started going to the drag strip, I was horrified at the frequent lockouts, mostly 2-3. I went through all the typical "treat the symptoms" fixes, and there are many. I pretty much tried them all, and there was incremental improvement. However, if you really want to solve the problem, in my opinion, you have to replace the factory clutch. I did this back in September, and I no longer have any (7000 RPM) shifting issues. The other key part is replacing the factory shifter with an MGW variant. I wasted money on the Barton bracket, the Barton short throw shifter, and the Steeda trans mount bushing before coming to the ultimate conclusion that I had to replace the clutch, even after I had installed the MGW shifter (which almost solves the issue by itself). I'm not bashing Barton or Steeda, but they're products were not really a solution.
Once I decided to commit to the task, these are the parts I replaced.
The flywheel with a Ford Performance billet steel flywheel (SFI rated)
The clutch assembly with the Exedy Mach 500 Stage 1 kit (pressure plate, clutch disc, throw-out, pilot bearing)(SFI rated, but good street manners)
SVE stainless steel clutch line and elbow
SVE clutch reservoir
Ford clutch master cylinder
Steeda return spring (lower pressure)
MGW standard shifter (not X-Spec)

I'm retired and I don't depend on this car to get me to work, so I know if I break it, I can live without it for a while.
Just my two cents, but I did live this issue.

More information on your current setup is really the key to anyone offering solutions to your issue.

Good luck.

 

[slow5ohh]

thank you so much for the very insightful reply. To answer my setup question, it is completely stock.

 

[Skidmarc]

Red candy, does the MGW shifter give you any NVH?

 

[86GT351]

Any synchronized transmission can/will possibly give you lockout at higher RPMS.

 

[GlassTop09]

The flywheel with a Ford Performance billet steel flywheel (SFI rated)

Was this the 29 lbs version that Ford Performance sells on their web site?

 

[Red-Candy-Metallic]

Red candy, does the MGW shifter give you any NVH?

There is some feedback in the shifter handle due to the fact that it is attached directly to the transmission, but I don't consider it to be objectionable. It doesn't really introduce any NVH to the body of the car, because there is no direct attachment. The aftermarket brackets that are used with the stock shifter or aftermarket shifters introduce NVH trough their attachment to the body. I can say that I got the most NVH using the Steeda transmission mount bushing insert (made by other vendors as well). I have yet to hear anyone say that they regretted installing the MGW shifter.

 

[Red-Candy-Metallic]

Was this the 29 lbs version that Ford Performance sells on their web site?

This is the listing on FPP: FLYWHEEL LIGHTWEIGHT BILLET 8 BOLT MODULAR-COYOTE
I bought it about $100 cheaper from LMR: Ford Performance Flywheel
Advertised as 20lbs (9lbs lighter than stock)

 

[GlassTop09]

This is the listing on FPP: FLYWHEEL LIGHTWEIGHT BILLET 8 BOLT MODULAR-COYOTE
I bought it about $100 cheaper from LMR: Ford Performance Flywheel
Advertised as 20lbs (9lbs lighter than stock)

Ah OK...........so Ford does make a billet flywheel weighted close to the OEM nodular iron one (4.6L 6-bolt.... weighed 22 lbs....) but in 8-bolt pattern only.......? I was assuming that you'd got the FR billet 29 lb version........never saw this 1 so thanks for the info!

Good to know.