possibly lost/seized the motor today

[FalconGTHO]

Just for the sake of discussion, because the engine removal with trans attached (Im manual) is something Ive contemplated for future purposes, if you needed 3 or 4 guys to move the car around to back in, couldnt you have the K member unbolted with the car on the ground, trans unbolted from its mount and have the car positioned so that there was enough room that the 4? guys could just lift the car up and over the engine, trans and member, roll it back into place and place down on stands on the sub frame stubs?

This very method is what Ive considered since I dont have a lift where I could lower all that down while the car was on the lift.

 

[white05gt]

Screw the part out, hawgman has a stock engine for a good price. Your probably a long ways a way, but for the price he's asking you can stick it back together and save some money at the same time.

I can't see why anyone would go from a built engine to a stock one???

 

[stkjock]

I can't see why anyone would go from a built engine to a stock one???

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[skwerl]

It would make it a lot easier to sell the car if it runs, even if he can't bear the thought of driving around in a stock powered Mustang.

 

[Mach2burnout]

Well he was running [email protected] on the Stock Motor or so his sig says, I assume prior to the built motor. So, with the parts he has and a running stock motor, he should at least be back where he was prior to the build. So like skwerl said, it is easier to sell a running car and you can get a lot more for it.

 

[white05gt]

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Let me rephrase that, I can't see anyone like Ron going back to a stock engine. I don't think I need to expand on that...

 

[94tbird]

Sorry to hear this man. Take a few days to gather your thoughts before making a decision in the heat of the moment. At the end of the day, its just a car

Thats what im trying to wrap my head around. i have a hitory of bad decisions. this car could be considered one when i should have done other, more mature things.

It would make it a lot easier to sell the car if it runs, even if he can't bear the thought of driving around in a stock powered Mustang.

Im sure if i offered the car as a roller with no engine or trans for 2 grand, someone would jump on it, even on ebay

 

[white05gt]

Thats what im trying to wrap my head around. i have a hitory of bad decisions. this car could be considered one when i should have done other, more mature things.



Im sure if i offered the car as a roller with no engine or trans for 2 grand, someone would jump on it, even on ebay

Hell, I would drive up there for it as a roller for $2k lol. Hopefully you don't go that route but I don't blame you for doing so.

 

[Wicked One]

That sucks to hear Ron.

I am pulling my stock 14k motor out in the next week or so, let me know your decision. I am only 25 minutes from you.

Best of luck.

 

[Shotokan1509]

Thats what im trying to wrap my head around. i have a hitory of bad decisions. this car could be considered one when i should have done other, more mature things.



Im sure if i offered the car as a roller with no engine or trans for 2 grand, someone would jump on it, even on ebay

Stop, no decisions, take some time.

If not, 2g roller pm me for cash

 

[BruceH]

Thats what im trying to wrap my head around. i have a hitory of bad decisions. this car could be considered one when i should have done other, more mature things.



Im sure if i offered the car as a roller with no engine or trans for 2 grand, someone would jump on it, even on ebay

You still don't know the extent of the damage. There is a chance it's limited and that most of the fix will involve free labor provided by you.

You also have an easily sold part worth enough used to fund a limited rebuild. I'm speaking of the trans.

 

[Riptide]

Dude..... Very sorry to hear about the engine.

I wouldn't blame you a bit if you decide not to rebuild though I would be disappointed.

 

[FalconGTHO]

Just for the sake of discussion, because the engine removal with trans attached (Im manual) is something Ive contemplated for future purposes, if you needed 3 or 4 guys to move the car around to back in, couldnt you have the K member unbolted with the car on the ground, trans unbolted from its mount and have the car positioned so that there was enough room that the 4? guys could just lift the car up and over the engine, trans and member, roll it back into place and place down on stands on the sub frame stubs?

This very method is what Ive considered since I dont have a lift where I could lower all that down while the car was on the lift.

Nobody has a comment on this idea?

 

[ZmanM3]

Thats what im trying to wrap my head around. i have a hitory of bad decisions. this car could be considered one when i should have done other, more mature things.



Im sure if i offered the car as a roller with no engine or trans for 2 grand, someone would jump on it, even on ebay

Hmm, if your going to part it out I call dibbs on everything!! So for 2 grand I'd get everything except the engine and trans? How about the blower? Sorry for your loss at any rate. That really sucks. Are you going to pull the engine apart and see what broke? I'm also wondering what happened to the coolant if it didn't go into the oil.

 

[tmcolegr]

Ron I can certainly understand how hard and expensive it would be to go through another engine build, but at this point I would have to find out exactly what failed - what is the root cause of failure. Not knowing that would cause me more loss of sleep than the decision of what to do with the vehicle.

Just asking - is it possible you had something happen similar to againstallodds1? Both of you are running 4R70Ws, which could merely be a coincidence. I know he has a trans brake, can't remember if you have one. Didn't he find an issue with his transmission cooler lines that caused the T/C to thrust forward and remove all the end play from the crankshaft? Unfortunately it took him 2 builds to find this root cause of failure, but it would definitely be something to look into. Another thing to look at, did your T/C balloon and do the same thing - remove all end play from the crankshaft?

Sorry, not trying to further confuse your decision making process but if you don't find the root cause, that will question always stick in the back of your mind

 

[dysan]

That failure was againstallodds1 with the cooler lines (unless it also happened to Silverpoison and I didn't see that). I can't see it happening all of a sudden when it's been working fine for him for so long. What happened to Paul(againstallodds1) was he changed his cooler lines and then started having the failures but before he had done that it was fine.

 

[94tbird]

Hmm, if your going to part it out I call dibbs on everything!! So for 2 grand I'd get everything except the engine and trans? How about the blower? Sorry for your loss at any rate. That really sucks. Are you going to pull the engine apart and see what broke? I'm also wondering what happened to the coolant if it didn't go into the oil.

you know what a roller is right? the body and frame, nothing else. the rest would be parted out

Ron I can certainly understand how hard and expensive it would be to go through another engine build, but at this point I would have to find out exactly what failed - what is the root cause of failure. Not knowing that would cause me more loss of sleep than the decision of what to do with the vehicle.

Just asking - is it possible you had something happen similar to Silverpoison? Both of you are running 4R70Ws, which could merely be a coincidence. I know he has a trans brake, can't remember if you have one. Didn't he find an issue with his transmission cooler lines that caused the T/C to thrust forward and remove all the end play from the crankshaft? Unfortunately it took him 2 builds to find this root cause of failure, but it would definitely be something to look into. Another thing to look at, did your T/C balloon and do the same thing - remove all end play from the crankshaft?

Sorry, not trying to further confuse your decision making process but if you don't find the root cause, that will question always stick in the back of your mind

That failure was againstallodds1 with the cooler lines (unless it also happened to Silverpoison and I didn't see that). I can't see it happening all of a sudden when it's been working fine for him for so long. What happened to Paul(againstallodds1) was he changed his cooler lines and then started having the failures but before he had done that it was fine.

Im going to find out what caused it for sure, but im just trying to set priorities in my life. the other third option is put the car into storage for al ong time and come back to it i na few years, however that doesnt exactly solve anything for me now. Im trying to look at whats best for me long term, and not short term.

 

[VTXFrank]

Brother, a lot of folks are going to say to keep it, rebuild it, stick a stock motor in it, etc. I think your idea of putting it in storage and coming back to it later is a good idea. Even if you part it out and just put the car in storage.

It sounds to me like you've got some serious thinking going on. That's pretty obvious. The kind of thinking that means you're wanting to move onto establishing yourself first, then toys later on. I would fully back that idea. It's time to get out on your own and start living YOUR life. No matter what anyone says, no matter if you're 20 or 80, living with your parents means you are constantly living life the way THEY want you too. I'm NOT saying your parents are bad parents or that they're over-controlling. But when you live in someones house, you're subject to their rules and beliefs constantly.

I say you should part out, get yourself another, dependable car, and see what's out there for you in life.

Just my .02 and with inflation, it's actually .005.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

 

[tmcolegr]

That failure was againstallodds1 with the cooler lines (unless it also happened to Silverpoison and I didn't see that). I can't see it happening all of a sudden when it's been working fine for him for so long. What happened to Paul(againstallodds1) was he changed his cooler lines and then started having the failures but before he had done that it was fine.

You're correct it was againstallodds1 not Silverpoison. I'll edit my post.

 

[VTXFrank]

Nobody has a comment on this idea?

It would take more than four guys to lift the car over the motor and trans and move it back. Unless you've got four powerlifters.