Reason to have a wideband after dyno tune?

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Other than to keep an eye out for safety/backup plan? Im getting a dyno tune soon and i am trying to get my budget in order.

Is datalogging a good tool to use even after the dyno tune?
Reason i ask is that some widebands without controllers dont offer datalogging capabilities and id like to ask s197 how useful the datalog function can be? Im sure some used a couple times and got bored with it right? And never used again?

Thanks s197, im trying to get my shit in order before my tune.
 

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I would get a wideband for safety reasons and would keep an eye on it every WOT pull. All it takes is a few seconds of going lean for you to lose a motor. Definitely worth a few hundred bucks to potentially avoid blowing a motor.

You don't really need to datalog after everything is dialed in, but its a good tool to use in case you have any problems later on.
 

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I would get a wideband for safety reasons and would keep an eye on it every WOT pull. All it takes is a few seconds of going lean for you to lose a motor. Definitely worth a few hundred bucks to potentially avoid blowing a motor.

You don't really need to datalog after everything is dialed in, but its a good tool to use in case you have any problems later on.

Thank you for the reply. I was mainly wondering if the datalogging would be of any future use once its running on the tune.


Best to keep things simple with an autometer over an innovate with lc2 controller in your opinion?
Thanks
 

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Thank you for the reply. I was mainly wondering if the datalogging would be of any future use once its running on the tune.


Best to keep things simple with an autometer over an innovate with lc2 controller in your opinion?
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I've never had to datalog after tuning unless I had an issue and wanted my tuner to look over it.

I've always been a fan of the innovate LC1 Wideband. They're a bit tricky to setup, but I've always had good luck with them.
 

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I like having a wideband to keep an eye on any potential lean condition. I've been using the AEM wideband gauge and for a couple years now without issue.
 

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IMO if you are WOT by the time you notice your gauges reading low the damage has been done. My 2007 reads out 8 values. I can't pay attention to any of them while WOT. That's what logs are for.

That is unless the car is really slow. Then staring at the gauges is no problem.:signs6:
 

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If I didn't have a wideband on my GT500 a few years ago, I surely would have lost the engine. I had a fuel pump problem that would never have been discovered had it not been both for the WB and the Interceptor set to read FPDC. It's cheap insurance.
 

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Do you have a 3-valve or Coyote? Coyote motors have 2 widebands from the factory that can be read with a scan gauge (like Aeroforce Interceptors).
 

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Do you have a 3-valve or Coyote? Coyote motors have 2 widebands from the factory that can be read with a scan gauge (like Aeroforce Interceptors).

3v im trying to choose between an autometer cobalt analog(6171) and an innovate lc2(3795). Ease of install goes a long way my limited electrical and wiring abilities.

If i owned a coyote i would be all over an aeroforce.
 

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3v im trying to choose between an autometer cobalt analog(6171) and an innovate lc2(3795). Ease of install goes a long way my limited electrical and wiring abilities.

If i owned a coyote i would be all over an aeroforce.

Innovate sucks!!! I've had nothing but issues with those. switched to AEM and zero problems.
 

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Innovate sucks!!! I've had nothing but issues with those. switched to AEM and zero problems.

They seem to be hit or miss and that is what worries me. Price wise im looking at $153 for the autometer and $1609 for the innovate.

I was glad to read that many dont use the datalog feature and thats one of the only reasons id go with the innovate. Autometer appears from my untrained brain to be a little more plug and play and an easier install.
 

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I have a zeitronix gauge which gives me boost and wb info in a Roush gauge pod. Super sane. I put the controller above the glove box, and have the firewire for datalogging run down into the glove box itself.

YMMV.

I would be running lean 24/7 if I didn't have the WB - my old tune drifted lean after a winter of driving. Never found out why - reloading the tune/getting a new tune fixed the issue.
 

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If having a wideband gauge for an N/A car is this common, I've been missing something for years...which is very possible, lol.
 

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I'd say it also depends on climate. Out here I wouldn't trust just the dyno tune on a blown motor considering the dyno is conducted in an air conditioned environment with a fan. When you're out driving around in traffic and the ambient temp is 120+ degrees, data logging definitely gives piece of mind.
 

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Shoot we just assume the guy is supercharged... if you are n/a I think there are enough factory safeguards that when the fuel system starts to go down you will experience rough running or a CEL before any damage is done.
 

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Going to be getting myself a aeroforce gauge. They are expensive but look so cool haha
 

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Shoot we just assume the guy is supercharged... if you are n/a I think there are enough factory safeguards that when the fuel system starts to go down you will experience rough running or a CEL before any damage is done.

I have the basic vortech, nothing fancy. I'm looking to add as a safety net pretty much. I'm glad I asked, because it seems that most members don't datalog and that may save me time on my install and help me choose between my two gauges I was looking at.
 

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