To pull or not to pull, that is the question

[Dubstep Shep]

What are you feelings on something like this?

http://aeromotiveinc.com/products-page/stealth-fuel-systems/fuel-tanks/20g-eliminator-stealth-fuel-cell/

 

[Department Of Boost]

The other issue I have with the stock tank is that it sits on both sides. I would rather have a single unit where you could centralize the pump to avoid starvation issues. I feel like that wouldn't be as much of an issue with a single tank.

The "saddle" style tanks reduce sloshing considerably. Think about it. And if you are really worried about feul starvation put a stock pump on the PS fuel hat and wire it to a switch so when you are on the track you can always be pumping from the PS to the drivers side.

Sounds to me like you are looking for excuses for buying a fuel cell. And that is all good. But don't blind yourself to better/less expensive solutions before you decide.


If you want a fuel cell because they are cool by all means don't get one. But don't bullshit us and yourself that it's all about function.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

The "saddle" style tanks reduce sloshing considerably. Think about it. And if you are really worried about fuel starvation put a stock pump on the PS fuel hat and wire it to a switch so when you are on the track you can always be pumping from the PS to the drivers side.

Sounds to me like you are looking for excuses for buying a fuel cell. And that is all good. But don't blind yourself to better/less expensive solutions before you decide.


If you want a fuel cell because they are cool by all means don't get one. But don't bullshit us and yourself that it's all about function.

Lol trust me when I say that I would rather avoid expenses. I'm throwing enough money your way I'm trying to cut down elsewhere. I'm just playing devils advocate as I find it's an extremely effective way to brainstorm and eliminate problems before they arise.

I'm simply throwing things out there at the moment. Not buying a tank does save me some money now, but if I tailor a system to that tank, I may be limited later on if I want to reuse components. That's why I'm trying to figure this stuff out now, because I would hate to actually want/need a fuel cell later on and I've already cut wires and fuel lines for the factory tank location. Though those are easy items to get in longer versions.

Retaining the tank certainly would be one less expense, which means more money to spend elsewhere, which is obviously nice. I'll double check with Aeromotive and make sure any system I order will fit the factory tank, which I'm almost completely positive it would.

Gmitch, do I want GT500 Fuel rails or GT ones with the R-Spec? Currently I have ID1000s running stock GT rails. I have the little purple extenders for the injectors though.

 

[19COBRA93]

What are you looking to gain that the OEM tank can't do? Aside from more capacity, which I doubt you're needing, the only real gain over the factory tank would be moving that weight aft of the rear axle. That would possibly better balance the car (when it's full). Beyond that, all I see is more expense and more work for very little gain.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

What are you looking to gain that the OEM tank can't do? Aside from more capacity, which I doubt you're needing, the only real gain over the factory tank would be moving that weight aft of the rear axle. That would possibly better balance the car (when it's full). Beyond that, all I see is more expense and more work for very little gain.

Some of the reason is to free up the space where the tank is now. I'm looking into relocating the exhaust and swapping some coolers where the exhaust ends now and pipe it to the quarter windows.

 

[claudermilk]

Most race cars don't have ABS

Slightly OT, but isn't that mostly because they are regulated out of the series these days?

I would expect where they are allowed, they would be used (thus the existence of the Boss 302R module Terry Fair uses after pissing off his OEM one so much).

I'm not intimately familiar with the regs where Mustangs play, but I don't recall seeing a lot of locked tires in series like Continental or Pirelli Challenge.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Slightly OT, but isn't that mostly because they are regulated out of the series these days?

I would expect where they are allowed, they would be used (thus the existence of the Boss 302R module Terry Fair uses after pissing off his OEM one so much).

I'm not intimately familiar with the regs where Mustangs play, but I don't recall seeing a lot of locked tires in series like Continental or Pirelli Challenge.

There are a lot more race cars out there than Mustangs and the few classes they run in.

 

[Sky Render]

This might work for your defroster/heater needs:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-991102-1

 

[Dubstep Shep]

This might work for your defroster/heater needs:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-991102-1

Yea I've been talking to Terry and it looks like I'll be following in the footsteps of his other customers mustang. I need to swing by sometime when I'm headed through dallas and meet with him

 

[claudermilk]

There are a lot more race cars out there than Mustangs and the few classes they run in.

Granted, that was just an example. IIRC, F1 had ABS until it was banned ans another example. My point is these days it stikes me as more of a rules issue rather than deliberate choice to not run ABS. If I were building a W2W car, if the rules allowed ABS, I'd be running it if possible; since I'm not, I'll shut up now.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Granted, that was just an example. IIRC, F1 had ABS until it was banned ans another example. My point is these days it stikes me as more of a rules issue rather than deliberate choice to not run ABS. If I were building a W2W car, if the rules allowed ABS, I'd be running it if possible; since I'm not, I'll shut up now.

ABS and traction control are for pussies.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

ABS and traction control are for pussies.

Traction control I agree. There are some people that are faster without it. But ABS is a tool, and a damn good one at that. I would MUCH rather have ABS on a track vehicle than not.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Traction control I agree. There are some people that are faster without it. But ABS is a tool, and a damn good one at that. I would MUCH rather have ABS on a track vehicle than not.

Pussy!

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Pussy!

Hey man, I like my ass where it is hahaha

 

[Department Of Boost]

Hey man, I like my ass where it is hahaha

I understand all the upsides to traction control and ABS. I was around before they got big and after they became popular (bike stuff). I'm old school about that kind of stuff and I have no desire to re-learn "the feel" of TC and ABS. I'm still faster without TC and the ABS feels "numb" too me.

I think that most professional racing should have no driver aids. It separates the men from the boys and is more entertaining for the fans.

I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.

If I was racing in a class that allowed TC and ABS I would use it though. It would be hard to win without it.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

I understand all the upsides to traction control and ABS. I was around before they got big and after they became popular (bike stuff). I'm old school about that kind of stuff and I have no desire to re-learn "the feel" of TC and ABS. I'm still faster without TC and the ABS feels "numb" too me.



I think that most professional racing should have no driver aids. It separates the men from the boys and is more entertaining for the fans.



I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.



If I was racing in a class that allowed TC and ABS I would use it though. It would be hard to win without it.

I don't like traction control, but then again I like getting sideways. Probably gonna try my hand at drift after the rebuild.

ABS is in every way superior. To me sliding on brakes is what's numb. None of my bikes had TC or ABS, and neither did my truck, and I hated that.