Twin-charger 4.6L

[SirKoda]

I know people sometimes argue "Turbo > Supercharger" or "Supercharger >Turbo"
But I'm seriously curious if someone has done a twin-charger setup on the 3v. I know that there are termi's with them making insane power all the way through the rev range. And even a couple of gt500. Just curious if someone else has thought of using the best of both worlds.

 

[702GT]

Not tech. Brace yourself.

 

[JUSTA3V]

I have often thought

 

[tjm73]

Not tech. Brace yourself.

WTF. Like he said, tech is for real tech.

 

[stkjock]

moved, please review the tech posting rules.


no need to do a compound set up when you can get 1000+ from a 3V with a TT or big centri blower

 

[JeremyH]

I know people sometimes argue "Turbo > Supercharger" or "Supercharger >Turbo"
But I'm seriously curious if someone has done a twin-charger setup on the 3v. I know that there are termi's with them making insane power all the way through the rev range. And even a couple of gt500. Just curious if someone else has thought of using the best of both worlds.

$$$

If you notice the cobra's and gt500 were already factory supercharged. Its not a new concept been around since the late 80's and a few oem's did it as well.

It comes down to cost and how practical it is. Over double the cost to buy 2 systems and make them fit properly and function. Vice KISS and getting a single setup to fit your needs.

Sure open your wallet and go for it.

 

[702GT]

I know people sometimes argue "Turbo > Supercharger" or "Supercharger >Turbo"
But I'm seriously curious if someone has done a twin-charger setup on the 3v. I know that there are termi's with them making insane power all the way through the rev range. And even a couple of gt500. Just curious if someone else has thought of using the best of both worlds.

Most of the people who have done it do it for the kudos or show car. Wild shit like that belongs at SEMA. Unless you can find a motor they don't make a big enough blower for, it's just not practical from a performance view. If you're looking to make huge numbers with instant power, the best combination for dual power adder is blower + nitrous. If you have to feed a PD blower with a turbo, you already fucked up and didn't buy the right size PD. They make PD blowers with more displacement than our 3v's. Not that a 3v head could support it, but you'd have really low IAT's. I do understand someone doing a big single or even a medium PD (like a TVS or 2.9L Whipple) and wanting to get out of the hole faster. Nitrous will do just that, and at a fraction of the price a second FI setup would cost you.

Again, a twin procharger or twin vortech setup is sweet to look at, but not practical. Same with twin turbo feeding a PD (actually, PD feeding twin turbos lol) it's unnecessary, but cool to look at. Are these cars fast? Shit yeah. Could you buy a Ford GT super car for the money you'll put into a mustang doing it? Pretty close.

 

[mrgtx]

It sounds like you're just kicking the idea around...and I totally support that exercise.

So I think it's a cool idea and like you pointed out, the benefits to the shape of the power band are significant...Volvo is offering this which allows them to haul around a 4300lb SUV with a 2.0L cyl....so it can be done effectively and reliably enough to have a factor warranty too.

Of course for most of us, the cost, complexity and weight are prohibitive...on top of the fact that the 4.6L 3v will need some significant money invested in the rotating assembly at a minimum to take advantage of this.

Also, it seems like the cutting edge performance cars these days are solving this power band problem a different way- Hybrid power systems! As much as it makes my skin crawl, the current crop of hypercars are proving that this tech can produce hellaciously fast street cars.

How hard would it be to mod a Mustang to have electric assist? Probably not as hard as it would be to dodge the flying eggs and rotten produce from any muscle car fan who sees it at a car show.

 

[Pentalab]

Typ dc electric motors produce max start up tq ..at zero rpm. F1 took the Prius concept and ran with it. It would be nice to have another 100-200 hp, just by pushing a button.

 

[mrgtx]

Typ dc electric motors produce max start up tq ..at zero rpm. F1 took the Prius concept and ran with it. It would be nice to have another 100-200 hp, just by pushing a button.

Yeah...unless that “button” is operated with your right foot.

Electrics/hybrids just have that appliance vibe that I can’t get my head around. I’m sure that opinion would change if I got to drive a LaFerrari for a couple days.