Twincharger: ever seen one on our cars?

[Dubstep Shep]

This is super trivial for you, but it is not as simple as just adding.... say an On3 single turbo kit and pipe the cold outlet from the heat exchanger directly to the throttle body on the M90 is it? I'm guessing a lot more is involved but figured I would ask because I'm not sure what the challenges are to this. Sounds simple but I know there is more to it or else everyone would be doing it.

That's correct. You don't merely add the boost that each produces.

 

[Department Of Boost]

This is super trivial for you, but it is not as simple as just adding.... say an On3 single turbo kit and pipe the cold outlet from the heat exchanger directly to the throttle body on the M90 is it? I'm guessing a lot more is involved but figured I would ask because I'm not sure what the challenges are to this. Sounds simple but I know there is more to it or else everyone would be doing it.

Even that would be quite a bit of fab.

Then there is the question of what to do about cooling. Do you run the On3 A2A intercooler and the A2W intercooler in the manifold? How do you mount the heat exchanger and the A2A IC? Or do you delete the On3 IC and just use the A2W IC in the manifold? Will that keep it as cool as you want to?

Does the turbo get too close to the blower snout/belt (I would have to see some pictures)?

Packaging would be a PITA. It's probably a safe bet that everything would need to be modded a little.

And how big is the On3 turbo? Is it big enough to make compound boosting worth it? In theory you want to use a turbo that is "a little too big" because the blower will take car of the bottom end.

And what do you end up with? Will it make 1000+hp? Probably not. What will it end up costing? There is already a "bolt on" way of making 1000+hp, why re-invent the wheel?

There is also the weight to think about too. Your are effectively talking about twice as much stuff.

I have also heard that tuning a compound boost setup at part throttle can be troublesome too.

Like I said above I could see doing a project like that. But it would be to do something different. Not because it makes a lot of sense.

And if I were going to compound boost something it would be with twins and a blower. If you're going to go crazy, go all the way crazy.

 

[Department Of Boost]

"Compound boost is where two or more compressors are used in a series to increase the pressure of the incoming gas by multiple compression ratios."

I think you just made my point for me.

 

[Premium08]

In confused, Is the op a ricer or not?

 

[Department Of Boost]

In confused, Is the op a ricer or not?

 

[Dubstep Shep]

I think you just made my point for me.

Right. But you could use two turbos in series, or two supercharger a in series. Turbines, piston compressors, etc. it's not specific as to the type of compressors.

"The same equations used on turbines are used on Diesel cycles, with the exception of the cycle structure itself."

Also from my notes.

 

[stkjock]

Geez Shep give it a rest.

 

[Timmbo]

Ahh hah! Here we go!

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_0801_twin_turbo_compound_boost_2003_mustang_cobra/viewall.html

 

[Full_Tilt]

You guys are retarded.

Technically a turbocharger is a type of supercharger. "Supercharging" is the term that was invented nearly 100 years ago to basically mean "forced induction". Does that mean that everybody should call turbochargers superchargers? Of course not.

"Twincharging" is a name someone made up to describe a TYPE of compound supercharging, one in which you use a belt-driven supercharger and a turbocharger.
Its just a fucking name. Just because you havent heard it before doesnt mean its wrong. If you dont like it you dont have to say it.

I personally like the name because its a hell of a lot easier to say than "a compound boost setup in which a turbo feeds a supercharger"

 

[Timmbo]

Semantics are fun. As a grad of Nashville Auto Diesel it took me forever to get over people referring to engines as "motors". Two completely different animals. You'd get slapped upside the head or a big 1" drive breaker bar thrown at you from across the shop by the instructor for confusing the two LOL!!!

 

[Full_Tilt]

When I was a kid I knew an old guy who always corrected me on that.
"Its not a damn motor, motors get power externally, engines make it internally".

Now I cant stand when people call an engine a motor.

 

[Greg Hazlett]

Geez Shep give it a rest.

I warned you Dave and everyone else.....

 

[Dubstep Shep]

You guys are retarded.

Technically a turbocharger is a type of supercharger. "Supercharging" is the term that was invented nearly 100 years ago to basically mean "forced induction". Does that mean that everybody should call turbochargers superchargers? Of course not.

"Twincharging" is a name someone made up to describe a TYPE of compound supercharging, one in which you use a belt-driven supercharger and a turbocharger.
Its just a fucking name. Just because you havent heard it before doesnt mean its wrong. If you dont like it you dont have to say it.

I personally like the name because its a hell of a lot easier to say than "a compound boost setup in which a turbo feeds a supercharger"

Exactly.

Semantics are fun. As a grad of Nashville Auto Diesel it took me forever to get over people referring to engines as "motors". Two completely different animals. You'd get slapped upside the head or a big 1" drive breaker bar thrown at you from across the shop by the instructor for confusing the two LOL!!!

That's hilarious! Sounds like an instructor.

When I was a kid I knew an old guy who always corrected me on that.
"Its not a damn motor, motors get power externally, engines make it internally".

Now I cant stand when people call an engine a motor.

My personal peeve is when people call progressives liberals. Completely opposite views.

 

[ford20]

Let me make a thread about Twincharging/compound boost and then continue on a 4 page argument on the name.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Let me make a thread about Twincharging/compound boost and then continue on a 4 page argument on the name.

Personally I'm not a fan of that tangent, but I can't really keep people from making those comments.

 

[stkjock]

But u can stop responding..........

 

[Dubstep Shep]

But u can stop responding..........

Yea, but this is my thread, so I'm going to keep tabs on it and respond to comments. I don't go taking other peoples threads on tangents, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Greg Hazlett]

But u can stop responding..........

All everyone is doing is feeding the troll....let it go.....

 

[BruceH]

When I was a kid I knew an old guy who always corrected me on that.
"Its not a damn motor, motors get power externally, engines make it internally".

Now I cant stand when people call an engine a motor.

What? Now I have something else to think about. I could of went the whole rest of my life without knowing this. Damn...

 

[Full_Tilt]

What? Now I have something else to think about. I could of went the whole rest of my life without knowing this. Damn...

I was just responding to the previous post. No reason to be a dick.