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Let's discuss how many PD's run gobs of methanol injection ;)
 

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Let's discuss how many PD's run gobs of methanol injection ;)

...and how many of the F/I cars run air/water intercoolers with coolant tanks? Point being, if you want to go really fast with F/I there, you aren't going to run a standard air/air or limited capacity air/water setup regardless of it being a PD, centri or turbo setup. ;)

It is interesting to look over the really fast stuff there and witness it run.
 

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Something I really enjoy is the oddball stuff, and not necessarily fast either. Looking at this years results, there's a Karmann Ghia that ran 141.7, I saw this car in tech, the guy did a homebrew EFI and turbo. Also a turbo Miata that ran 142.3. Then the Subaru Forester at 145.2. I expect all of those cars are hairy at those speeds and feel a hell of a lot faster than my car does.
 

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...and how many of the F/I cars run air/water intercoolers with coolant tanks? Point being, if you want to go really fast with F/I there, you aren't going to run a standard air/air or limited capacity air/water setup regardless of it being a PD, centri or turbo setup. ;)
Indubitably. But PD's are working against you beween undersized cores and engine temps heating them up. In the GT500's the 1000hp core has 25 percent or so of the core covered by the lower intake. Can't upgrade them due to space, just stuck. Eh, run one. Not me, No me gusta lol.
 

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You must mean Mike. I spent some time with him out at the airport and at dinner, good guy, says he'll be back, I hope so.
Yup, that would be Mike. Now that he is done with the mile, my car should be next.
KD - did u call him out on YT?



I hardly think a L&M motor and custom 4.2 KB blower is slightly modded And from what I read it was that the nitrous didn't activate. Not that he couldn't use it.
My slightly modified was being very sarcastic, he figured the car was upwards of 1300-1500hp. Even blew up his dyno trying to tune it.
 

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Yup, that would be Mike. Now that he is done with the mile, my car should be next.

My slightly modified was being very sarcastic, he figured the car was upwards of 1300-1500hp. Even blew up his dyno trying to tune it.

Mike and Greg are good people. We enjoyed spending time with them. :beerchug2:
 

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World's fastest Boss runs 200+mph, KB 3.6 on pump E85, no methanol, no nitrous, no ice tank (stock KB coolant reservoir, with an AFCO GT500 HX) :clap:

That would qualify as gobs of ethanol injection :)

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Point being, if you want to go really fast with F/I there, you aren't going to run a standard air/air or limited capacity air/water setup regardless of it being a PD, centri or turbo setup. ;)

It is interesting to look over the really fast stuff there and witness it run.

Define fast.
 

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That would qualify as gobs of ethanol injection :)

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Eggxactly lol. Not the heat latency of methanol, but there is a shit ton more of it. You will find most big HP PD cars running E85. Coincidence? :beerchug2:
 
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Congrat Kris, you are really moving and it is neat to see you always run faster and quicker times that FI cars at the track and the mile.

WBT- Don't keep up with the posts but what are the plans for your ride ?







Eggxactly lol. Not the heat latency of methanol, but there is a shit ton more of it. You will find most big HP PD cars running E85. Coincidence? :beerchug2:


All high hp cars run either E85 or race fuel, who cares what is needed to get it done its about getting it done and in most cases E85 is a cheaper/ more available option to race fuel that cost 3-6 times more.

The fastest FI cars in any class or event always have huge tanks filled with guess what ? Ice and water, who cares if you use e85, meth or e98 as long as your just getting it done. Doesn't the car you built have a ice tank and need even a bigger IC to get it done , I guess Turbo cars are not much better :beerchug2: I don't see the logic in your argument.
 

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Because cars I build w ice in the tanks have low 40 to high 30 degree inlets. I'd call that better ;) And I CAN run larger intercoolers if need be. I like it done right without a handicap from the get go. Personally I don't like methanol injection on anything. Not that it's impossible to do w PD, or they suck. Idk why everyone gets butt sore lol. It would just be last on my last choice of F/I.
 

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WBT- Don't keep up with the posts but what are the plans for your ride ?

Hey man! Hope all is well with you and your car.

I am looking at going F/I in a month or so. Between now and then I plan to make a few more track outings to test some suspension stuff. :)
 

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Eggxactly lol. Not the heat latency of methanol, but there is a shit ton more of it. You will find most big HP PD cars running E85. Coincidence? :beerchug2:

We chose E85 because we needed the octane, as it is a hell of a lot cheaper than Shell URT (which is what the car ran for many months, still without Methanol). Pump E85 is race fuel octane, but cheaper and readily available in our area. The charge cooling effect and ability to bump timing were a bonus.

IMO Methanol injection is a bandaid, like towing vehicles that spray water on the radiator when towing big loads...just upgrade the system that is in question (fuel, cooling, trans, etc) and have one less system to fail at the wrong time.:thumb2:
 

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Hey man! Hope all is well with you and your car.

I am looking at going F/I in a month or so. Between now and then I plan to make a few more track outings to test some suspension stuff. :)
Just started the longblock assembly yesterday and already have issues :helpme: Look forward to whatever you have planned

Because cars I build w ice in the tanks have low 40 to high 30 degree inlets. I'd call that better ;) And I CAN run larger intercoolers if need be. I like it done right without a handicap from the get go. Personally I don't like methanol injection on anything. Not that it's impossible to do w PD, or they suck. Idk why everyone gets butt sore lol. It would just be last on my last choice of F/I.

Sure in a race car your going to see low 40 to high 30s but you will not see those same temps in a true street car which is what most these cars are. In a true street car that is going to be driven in everyday situations its hard to argue that E85 and Meth injection are not a bad idea in any form of FI. Nobody is butt sore, you make it sound like PD blowers are horrible at heat and will only make power on E85 and Meth. Im just pointing out they are no different than many of the other FI choices including my Turbo.
 

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