Whipple 05 GT 10 psi boost tires

Discussion in 'Tires and Wheels' started by 05GrayGT, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. 05GrayGT

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    Without changing the wheels (18”) would you think I’d be better off with the indy500s or super car 3s in 275 as they don’t offer 285. The regular super car summer tire is offered in a 285 however.
     
  2. Racer47

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    If those are my only choices, than super car 3's all day long.

    But there are a lot of other choices
    https://mickeythompsontires.com/drag-tires/et-street-s-s
    285/40R18, max forward traction and expensive

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...8S007AXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
    Damn good tire for good price, great traction, good treadwear, 275/40

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...4YR8F1S3&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
    super car 3s, better than Bstones above but more costly

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...4WR8Z232&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
    Similar price to GY's, some say these have more traction

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...R8A052XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
    Current autox king, killer traction and cornering, more costly, certainly won't win a drag race against the MTs at the top but if you go to 4 of these, you'll have more traction than you've ever had, treadwear will not be great and heavy rain will not be good, but it is doable at reduced speed.

    Firerocks are ok for the price but certainly not amongst the best tires available in the size that you need.
     
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  3. Norm Peterson

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    I knew that, but you're also talking about experienced autocrossers, people who are fully comfortable cornering out beyond 1g, and people who look at the occasional spin or near-spin as being part of the game. That's well outside what the average driver has experienced, at least intentionally, and not something that the intended buyer of DRs can be expected to be familiar with.

    For the street, I think people need to give some attention to what happens when the normal driving becomes not so normal. And realize that puttering around town on DRs uses up some of their best grip for no truly good reason. I wouldn't run R-comps on the street for the same reason.


    Norm
     
  4. Racer47

    Racer47 Doesn't have much to say S197 Team Member

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    Have you ever driven on DR's? Or R comps? Or tw200's? Or A7's? All on the street? I have. There is nothing wrong with any of them. You have misconceptions because you don't have first hand experience. These are big boys playing with cars not your 15 year old granddaughter taking drivers ed. No one is "puttering around town".
     
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  5. Norm Peterson

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    DRs, maybe once or twice (which would have been on the street since I don't run the quarter or the eighth at all). The rest, somewhat more though as I mentioned before I'm not inclined to burn up heat cycles in street driving. I guess it's nice if you can afford that level of performance luxury, but not all of us are willing to be that wasteful. Back when I was autocrossing, I didn't even drive to and from an event on STS-legal tires (back when 140 was the minimum TW) until they had already started to fall off. When I got out of autocrossing, those tires were still better than nothing-special all-seasons with the mold release agent still present, but I hope you'll agree that that's not saying much at all.

    So I don't have as much experience driving on these tires as you. That still doesn't mean none.



    Compared to autocross or HPDE, street driving is "just puttering around". Even compared to actual drag racing, street driving should be. And this is not defined by the amount of driver experience, it's the relationship between an individual's chosen kind of performance driving and his street driving.

    At least we might be in agreement that your DRs-for-autocross folks aren't newbies to that activity, save for the possibility of an errant drag racer showing up at an autocross (which I actually did see happen, once).


    Norm
     
  6. Doug Huggard

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    I'm pushing about 600rwhp and my Falken Avenis hook great going WOT froma 40 roll. They don't hook great from a dig, but for a "handling tire" they do well on a 10 second car driven on the street.
     
  7. Racer47

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    shhh, don't let grandpa Norm know that you are roll racing.
     
  8. Norm Peterson

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    I think he worded it carefully enough.

    Way more room for interpretation as an occasional brief solo traction test than the usual "done in Mexico".


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  9. 46addict

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    Thoughts on the Bridgestone Potenza S04s and Continental Extremecontact Sports? Trying to pin other tires in the same price range for future info.
    Is the Potenza s007 the best tire for under $200?

    edit: The Contis are $235+ and the Potenza S04s are no longer on the market. That puts me back to Falken Azenis FK510 and Hankook Ventus V12.
     
  10. Doug Huggard

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    I dont think you will be disappointed with the Falken Azenis RT615K+ in 295/40/18. I run that on the rear and its a great "all rounder".
    lol only WOT pulls for LITO
     
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  11. Racer47

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    I agree on the RT615s. They are doing well in autox. Plus 295/40R18 is a good size and fits nicely on a 10" wheel.

    The Ventus V12, FK510, S007, Conti ECS are all going to be down noticably on dry traction compared to the RT615s. I'm currently running the S007 as my daily tire because I had some long road trips and wanted a rain capable tire. But they are down on dry traction. I just bought my kid the Conti ECS for his 350Z and they are also suprisingly good, better than his prior Nitto NT05's, for everything, wet, dry, treadwear. Nitto really does kinda suck.

    But now that I know the 615s come in probably the perfect size for you. I would go with that. Why have a 500hp motor and 300hp tires? Skimping on tires degrades the whole cars performance.

    If you want to play car games expect to spend money on tires, brakes and gas. I know its easy to spend other peoples money, but if you want traction, it does cost a little.
     
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  12. 07 Boss

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    Sorry I got in on this late. I run a whipple with 10+ psi and a 4.10 rear end. I have tried multiple street tires from nitto to toyo to michelins. Currently have regular NT-05's. I've run many of the drag radials too. I will be going back to Mickey Thompson Street SS and quit trying other tires. I have had the greatest performance from the MT Street R's but the Street S/S just offers a bit more tread. If I run the R's I will run the 305/45/18 on my 10" rim. If I run the S/S's I will run the 305/40/18.
     
  13. JJ427R

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    Depending on where the OP is located, if you have a lot of rain a dr is not a great choice as they suck on wet. I have the Mickey Thompson Street R's in 305/45/18 as well and I've been caught in rain a couple times and they are like driving on ice and scary as hell. I won't ever run em' now unless I know there's no chance of rain.

    I'm currently running 275/35/20 Firestone Indy 500's on my 2010 Roush and I love em'. IMO for the price they cannot be beat. My previous for several years were Mickey Thompson Street Comps and before that Dunlop Sportmaxx. I was happy with the MT's and I really liked the Dunlop's, but similar to Michelins Dunlop's are very pricey. Firestones also worked quite well me on track for HPDE days at Road America. I have no problem comparing Firestones to the Michelins I have on my 2018 PP1 and IMO the Michelins are somewhat overrated.

    Firestone's at RA July 4th. :)
     
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