On3 turbo help!?

[johnnyv8]

Ok, first off, no matter what when doing a build of any sort the manufacturer will probably not find EVERY flaw in their system which is why you should always do a search. I spent weeks searching different companies before I settled on HP performance. I even read about how long it took to get all the stuff for the kit, and ended up going with them anyway. Now I didn't figure it would take the fuckers an entire year to get me all the parts, but it did. However I couldn't go complaining about it on the forums because it was a known issue and I would have gotten bashed the same as you are here.

Granted it shouldn't be that way, but the fact of the matter is that it just simply is that way and you have to research. Now one thing I've learned on forums is don't get defensive so quickly. That is only going to stir the fire with a lot of the members and make them want to pick you apart more and more until you just get pissed and either leave or get over it. My suggestion to you is just take this as a learning experience. Next time take the time and do EXTENSIVE research before you buy. The modding world sucks sometimes, but the outcome is almost always worth the heartach.

Now to rford... c'mon, wth with the yankee comment damnit!?! lol

Hey man, I agree, I'm learning as I go here and from now on, I will do a crazy amount of research. As far as bashing, I don't care, I'm not afford to use a mustang forum for what it is, a forum. I'm not asking for a perfect kit for 2g. There were plenty of things my buddys and I (really my buddys) had and still are figuring out and that's fine. But IMO (God for bid you have one of those on here). Its really shitty that On3 does not provide information such as needing a coolant system from 07+ GT.

I think there's a big difference from say for example when we figured out our selfs were to relocate the oil filter, or how low we think the sway bars needs to be lowred or any other small "fitment' issues. BUT for On3 not to inform there customers about something such as needing to convert your coolant is very piss poor business practice, period.

It appears that people on here will fight me tooth and nail about how I feel about that and thats fine, cuz I'm sticking to my guns with this one.

 

[johnnyv8]

It should be on their site. not everyone that has a damn mustang is on a forum. Shitty business imo.

OMG, somebody gets it!

 

[johnnyv8]

hahaha it was the 2nd page first off and Idk bout you but I do alot of research before I make a purchase so maybe that is why i think you are retarded for believing a ebay turbo kit company. I don't dis agree that it should be on there site but its not.

Like someone posted before what are you going to do when you put a window through your block and you have rods hanging out? Are you gonnna blame that on on3 too because they didn't tell you ?

Its just funny that you want to make this thread for future on3 customers who have a 05 or a 06 but ppl have already done this and you just didn't take advantage of our amazing search feature here.

Like I said before,

Its gonna be okay little buddy. You will figure it out one day

Umm, I started this thread for my help, hence the "?" in the title, and I never said I was the first to start this and like I said before I'm not acting like some super hero.

I really don't see how you can compare me blowing up my motor to them having false advertisement? There not advertising that this makes the motor bullet proof, but they do advertise that it works on 05-09 Mustang GT and it does not, period.

 

[rford426]

I've done some research on the kit here and maybe its because the vehicles where 07+ but I don't recall anyone talking about needing 07+. And just because the company has a great price on their product, that does not mean they should have miss leading information on their site, period. If msd boost a pump DOES NOT WORK, then why the fuck is it listed on their site?

It's shocking to me that you guys think its up to me to question what a company is telling me about their product. Maybe other people will come in here and agree with me but I'd can't picture anyone that would not be upset with any product or service that has miss information.

Like I said I will be doing a write up since On3 information is miss leading and incorrect for there future customers.

People have already done this but you were to retarded to find it...
So what makes you doing it any different if the next person is as retarded as you and can't find it?
Whats next?

 

[one eyed willy]

why all the hate? jeeeez.....

 

[white05gt]

So you blindley believe all the retailer's statements when making a purchase? Especialy from a company thats charging less than half for their kit than competitors? It is still up to the consumer to do research about a product before you buy it. You could have simpley searched the many on3 kit threads on here and asked around so you knew all this stuff before making the purchase and could have been more informed and prepared for the install. Its common knowledge around here that alot of power adder kits require a 07+ coolant config. It was simpley an oversight on their behalf since they never had a 05/06 to work on to know there was a difference.


BTW if you would like an upgraded fuel hat vice a bap let me know.

So he shouldn't blindly believe your statements about your fuel pumps?

I find it funny all the fucking bullshit hatin' and bickering with this forum lately. The guy ran into a problem with a kit he bought due to something not in the instructions so he asked since the car was tore apart rather than searching. Then you guys have four pages of this bullshit?

 

[Greg Hazlett]

I can see both points of view; the OP was upset about not knowing about needing the crossover and On3's directions never told him about it.....point taken.

OP said he searched and did not see info pertaining to his issue, rford found the info easily/quickly so point taken.

This thread should be locked, it has run it's course.

 

[JeremyH]

So he shouldn't blindly believe your statements about your fuel pumps?

I find it funny all the fucking bullshit hatin' and bickering with this forum lately. The guy ran into a problem with a kit he bought due to something not in the instructions so he asked since the car was tore apart rather than searching. Then you guys have four pages of this bullshit?

Of course not why should he, thats what reputation and first hand knowledge from customer's is for. Lots of guys ask questions and do research before buying stuff.

Not my 4 pages of bullshit i spoke my mind why do you always seem to quote me...

My point is that you need to do your research to the point of paranoia before taking a plunge on a mod as big as a power adder, especialy a turbo kit that is so cheap...
Never assume someone else has done your homework for you and has all the right answers. You will get burned everytime, is it the op's fault, no, could he have been better prepared and made a more informed decision, sure.

 

[white05gt]

I won't quote you for this reply, I don't want you to think I'm picking on you lol. I simply quoted you because I found it funny you tell people to do their research and not believe retailers statements then you throw in the btw sales pitch. I started a new line when I made the other statement since I was referring to everyone. Next time I will multi quote the whole thread so you don't think I'm referring to you.

 

[bw281]

S8vo I agree but its part of the game...We are putting shit on our cars that isn't suppose to be there it doesn't always go 100% smooth...Now if OP would have searched and read up and realized his is a 05 and everyone that has done a 05-06 ON3 kit has said IN THE FIRST POST of the thread that they had to get the 07 coolant cross over...

Id say this is 75% OP's fauls for being a RA-TARD and not going through build threads. Then coming on here and making it seem like he was saving the world by doing a build thread showing that the 05s need the 07 crosssover...GOOOD JOB DUUUDE but your a little late and you are proof that if some one is to retarded to actually search and look for it it won't matter anyway...It took me 3 seconds to find those 3 threads and im sure I could find more!

Maybe he searched and a ton of shit came up that wasn't related like it typically does on here. Why rely on a forum and not the manufacturer of the product?
Take a look on corral and see how many on3 lovers there are.

 

[JeremyH]

I won't quote you for this reply, I don't want you to think I'm picking on you lol. I simply quoted you because I found it funny you tell people to do their research and not believe retailers statements then you throw in the btw sales pitch. I started a new line when I made the other statement since I was referring to everyone. Next time I will multi quote the whole thread so you don't think I'm referring to you.

you dont have to go completey sd wheeler on it lol

 

[JeremyH]

Maybe he searched and a ton of shit came up that wasn't related like it typically does on here. Why rely on a forum and not the manufacturer of the product?

The forum has multiple independent reviews and additional information you get from different people installing the kit on different cars. On3 installed the kit on one car. This forum collectively has more knowldege about these kits and installing them than they do.

 

[bw281]

The forum has multiple independent reviews and additional information you get from different people installing the kit on different cars. On3 installed the kit on one car. This forum collectively has more knowldege about these kits and installing them than they do.

The independent reviews are great, but I don't think the reply to a bad review from an owner should just be, "It's a cheap kit, what do you expect," type of replies. The Chinese company doing all the pipes knows its a cheap kit and so does on3. They aren't selling the kit at a loss are they? Going by all the reviews and knowledge on here, wouldn't common sense push on3 to make a note on their site about the coolant crossover and the non-compatibility on 05-06 models? Simple common sense at the hands of a company producing a product.

 

[JeremyH]

The independent reviews are great, but I don't think the reply to a bad review from an owner should just be, "It's a cheap kit, what do you expect," type of replies. The Chinese company doing all the pipes knows its a cheap kit and so does on3. They aren't selling the kit at a loss are they? Going by all the reviews and knowledge on here, wouldn't common sense push on3 to make a note on their site about the coolant crossover and the non-compatibility on 05-06 models? Simple common sense at the hands of a company producing a product.

Sometimes the truth hurts, they obviously didnt care enough to update their site, still dont have instructions with their kits a year later and deleted stuff from the original kit like oil filter relocation, sway bar relocation brackets header wrap (some guys got it some dont). Shit they even offered different size turbo upgrades that they have never installed. Hence guys running into little fitment issues.

So yes the term its a cheap kit what do you expect definetly applies!

 

[one eyed willy]

i just dont see what all the banter is about.........lately this is happening in alot of threads. its like "if you dont do it the same way i did it, then its not going to work cause i know everything!"

guy had a legit question, got a legit answer.......then 3 pages of telling him to search....

i probably ask stupid questions all the time and if i got treated this way i wouldnt be around much, hes a fello stang driver....give him a little respect.

if i bought anything advertised to work/fit my car and it didnt , i would be pissed as well.......no matter how much it cost or i paid. dont advertise it to fit a specific year car if it dosnt fit it......that is thier mistake for not trying it out, not the OP's......i can understand why he would be aggrivated. just cause something is "more affordable" dosnt mean you should have to deal with false advertising......

 

[s8v4o]

Regarding searching. The problem I see is sometimes the creators of some threads are idiots and will create threads called "OMG" or something that's not relevant to the information that's actually contained in the thread. There might actually be good technical info in there but you would never know it by just searching and and reading the thread titles. Instead you often have to look through every thread of seemingly unrelated material with some threads containing 15+ pages of info that may or may not be in there to begin with. This is not geared towards anybody in particular OR regarding to ON3, just an observation that I have noticed while searching for things on my own. Another thing is sometimes technical info may be in chit chat or pitstop and somebody might not look in there because it's not considered "tech".

So people MAKE THE THREAD TITLES RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC INSIDE it helps people find info easier. Would be nice if this could be enforced for tech threads.

 

[rford426]

All it would have took is for him to look at ANY ON3 thread were someone else had a 05-06 every person that has a 05 and did a on3 build thread there very first post in there thread was about how they needed the 07 crossover...IF he did search he wasn't smart enough to look for his year of mustang?

Then OP goes saying well Im gonna put this info out here for future customers and I thought that was just kind of worthless considering the info is out there you just have to look. Then he comes back saying oo well I did search i did search there was NOTHING...Sorry no sympathy here

AND I agreed with him several times that they SHOULD have instructions ans should have told him he needed the 07 crossover BUT THEY DON'T. So whining about it on here isn't gonna do much for you...There are millions of on3 threads on here everything you need to know is out there.

 

[white05gt]

i just dont see what all the banter is about.........lately this is happening in alot of threads. its like "if you dont do it the same way i did it, then its not going to work cause i know everything!"

guy had a legit question, got a legit answer.......then 3 pages of telling him to search....

i probably ask stupid questions all the time and if i got treated this way i wouldnt be around much, hes a fello stang driver....give him a little respect.

if i bought anything advertised to work/fit my car and it didnt , i would be pissed as well.......no matter how much it cost or i paid. dont advertise it to fit a specific year car if it dosnt fit it......that is thier mistake for not trying it out, not the OP's......i can understand why he would be aggrivated. just cause something is "more affordable" dosnt mean you should have to deal with false advertising......

Regarding searching. The problem I see is sometimes the creators of some threads are idiots and will create threads called "OMG" or something that's not relevant to the information that's actually contained in the thread. There might actually be good technical info in there but you would never know it by just searching and and reading the thread titles. Instead you often have to look through every thread of seemingly unrelated material with some threads containing 15+ pages of info that may or may not be in there to begin with. This is not geared towards anybody in particular OR regarding to ON3, just an observation that I have noticed while searching for things on my own. Another thing is sometimes technical info may be in chit chat or pitstop and somebody might not look in there because it's not considered "tech".

So people MAKE THE THREAD TITLES RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC INSIDE it helps people find info easier. Would be nice if this could be enforced for tech threads.

I couldn't agree more, there are some poorly titled threads that make searching a fucking nightmare.

All it would have took is for him to look at ANY ON3 thread were someone else had a 05-06 every person that has a 05 and did a on3 build thread there very first post in there thread was about how they needed the 07 crossover...

Then OP goes saying well Im gonna put this info out here for future customers and I thought that was just kind of worthless considering the info is out there you just have to look. Then he comes back saying oo well I did search i did search there was NOTHING...Sorry no sympathy here

You have 16 posts in this thread and most of them are saying the same thing, all you have managed to do is sound like a broken record. I think we figured where you stand on page one and now we are on page four of you spewing more of your bullshit.
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3288566

 

[rford426]

White05GT- Since this thread is sooooo informative!?!? Glad you have nothing better to do than count my posts...Maybe we neeed a search lesson for some of you guys it took me half a minute to find the three threads on this. Heres post #17

I don't buy the poor titled threads...maybe on something that is not as common but cmon on3 turbo builds are a dima a dozen here.

 

[white05gt]

If you were so brilliant with your search features, you would know that I didn't count your posts, the forum does it for you. I don't have anything else to say in this thread, op sorry about all this shit and hope you enjoy your kit.


Btw rford, my link works fine for me.