NHRA Records are listed by drivers because their cars change. These records are for who's car is faster, not who is a better driver. Casper running 11.60 tells me JPC is a driving son of a bitch and w the right driver the car is faster period. If you want to bushwack, make the trip for mineshaft and lay it down on his home track and show them how it's done. Anything else is just diarrhea mouth. Records aren't average of consistency. He can drop to 12's and the record is still his.
No, what that means is JPC was running a gutted car in mineshaft conditions. It's an auto so accodring to you driver makes no difference.
They hold the record. It will be reclaimed.
CPRsm said:
If you're going to split hairs like you are accuracy might be important. Comparing dyno numbers from different dynos is uncool. But stirring shit over a few pounds with parts measured on different scales while one being an uncertified walmart special, TOTALLY legit.
I guess you missed it as I used the same scale to measure the weight differences. When Kelly decided to make a point of my k-member must be special because it weighs more I put that to bed. He isn't making the right measurement regardless of scale used. UPR may not be either. Maybe Sharad can "weigh" in on their numbers.
What we do know is a non-vendor, un-biased measurement was performed with the UPR product showing a 28lbs. weight savings over stock.
CPRsm said:
Let me see if I get this right. Correct me if I'm wrong. When I'm happy with a mph baseline to verify what a car made on the dyno, MPH doesn't mean a thing to you. ET is where it's at. But when a car is faster than your ET, suddenly MPH is good enough to use for some obscure record in your signature?

You also compare a 3900lb street car mph to a 2800 racecar. But don't compare yours to the same car, because it's a 2800lb racecar. It's different says you.
But now when you are arguing all the sudden their car is "heavy." Only when it's compared to your car does their racecar become 2800lbs.
Bottom line even in great conditions casper gt's car hasn't topped the MPH mark we put down. Quicker yes, faster no.
Let's talk standing mile for a minute, you don't reference a car running that event by how quick it made it to the end do you? No, you reference the car by how fast it went. Pretty clear.
Same can be said about the turbo car you ran at the track, it is faster than my N/A car.
Regarding the coyote stock car JPC put together, yes I made reference to it in another discussion simply as a MPH comparison between the turbo car you ran and their N/A combo poking at you.
I want to see your stuff run 140+ and I know you are working on some auto builds that should get there. When you hit that mark I will give credit where it is due.
CPRsm said:
Don't act so special because you have a box of tools. You only bolted on parts to your car and someone else tuned it. You bolted on a bunch of parts someone else spent the money and more difficult task of designing from SCRATCH(most times.Your Kmember not included.) So the only part of your car which really required any thought process was done by someone else. You shouldn't belittle people because they have less space to work on cars, less time, or more money than you.
There is nothing special about what I do in my driveway but I do it all myself. I pick and choose certain parts for certain reasons. I do my own suspension setup, install gears, converters, clutches, weld exhausts, change heads, cams, intakes, ported and polished heads, intakes, etc. and have done so for the past 17 years.
Not everyone does that. Some would rather pay others to do it. Personally I don't trust anyone else to do it like I want it done.
CPRsm said:
The funniest part about all this dumb shit was we have a totally normal debates and act like adults. Until I thanked Shaun for his help, then your tampon swelled. But, it's the same with you two. One starts an arguement and in rushes the other. So I guess it makes sense. Best part when I posted it asked Shaun how long before you two started talking shit to me because he and I get along. Predictably pathetic.
Let's get back to civil discussions.