Am I being Shortchanged? 6 Speed Tranny Issues

[KIM_05_GT]

If you want to know the shop or shops involved refer to this thread....

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131931&page=3

 

[ZmanM3]

I agree with pretty much everything you said, except keeping names private. Why not let people know who you're dealing with?

I knew Larry H was a fraud long ago, and tried to warn others to stay clear of him. Then even after some of his customers starting having problems with their engines people still protected him, and wouldn't name him. Only recently since he disappeared is his crap coming to the surface. Just think how many people might have made better choices on where to buy their engines if some of his faults were exposed sooner?

In this particular case with the tranny, as you've read, my opinion is the same as pretty much everyone else that commented. That said, John and Bill do have some, albeit small, amount of responsiblity. How it's handled seperates the good vendors from the rest.

So how did you know that Larry Hays was a fraud?

 

[DirtyDogOfTheDesert]

So how did you know that Larry Hays was a fraud?

PM's sent.

 

[ZmanM3]

PM's sent.

Thanks.

 

[Quiksilver]

Since i read all this..I will give my $.02 worth

-It was clearly advertised as a T56,so thats done.

YOUR bold sentence above says enough for me.
Maybe the specs were wrong,title wasnt as you
clearly pointed out above.That argument may
hold some merit in a court,but between "friends"
for a used T56,your argument wont go far at all.


-You had it for some time,plenty of time to check.

-You installed it,all the while knowing it was a T56.
Ok,during the install,time is money...yada,yada..


You got what you paid for,and of course,IMO.
After purchasing,did you change your mind on
puchasing the T56 in favor of the 6060? idk.

Like noted above a few times,its a stout tranny
and you should now just work with it, and also
get that hurst shifter noted above,it's better.


Now as for John...why the f*uck is he telling
you that you that u cant call Bill?? lol are you
kidding me??no offence,hes no friend anyway.
Why would you listen?? if in doubt CALL them!

Did he actually say..please dont call them??
or did he say...DONT CALL THEM! either way
bro,if you doubted something,call someone.
Dont let a phonecall intimidate you from also
making that needed phonecall on your end..

If this were me, I would ask john to maybe
help with the right driveshaft,but thats me.
I wouldnt call him any type of friend,if you
felt that way,maybe he was after the green
and just doing business,in a friendly manner.

"john" & "bill" im sure will know about your
thread,its best to keep their names out IMO.


You asked for opinions

Sorry been out of touch - just replying......and thanks for the opinions

I left out one very impotant detail which was that the seller had the transmission until it was delivered to the installer so I never saw it at all. I saw pics of it before it went it but had no idea it was incorrect. I did not know then what i know now. It went straight into the car. As he insisted that it was correct and at my instructions the installer put it in and John had me right there at a point of no return. Its honestly only after doing all this homework post install have I realised the issues and how I feel I was duped.

I have also accepted the tranny in my car (it does shift nicely) and will pay the extra $$$ to find a short shifter, increase the rear diff etc etc and learnt my lesson so I am over that. Its in the car I accept that and I think the way forward is to hopefully get the correct driveshaft and be done with this.

What I will never accept is yes, he said it was a T-56 in the original advertisement but he 100% confirmed it was the same as a Tr6060 (he still argues that to this day which seems very ignorant to me) and confirmed it was the same as the Gt500 transmission which is one of the reasons I went off in that direction buying parts and researching that tranny - I am no expert and took his info to be true. He also backed this up with a pictured link to the D&D TR6060 Kit AND posted the specs to a TR6060. He also covered his arse by ensuring it was installed. As he was a friend i never doubted him but he has made almost no effort to make me happy or fix the problem. Last week a poosible solution was discussed (correct driveshaft and a short shifter) but still havent heard anything.

I am sorry but I call foul on that.

And now that the cat is kind of out of the bag - Bill is Livernois. I have emailed Ric twice now explaining this and have had ZERO response in over a week now. I am pretty sure there will be some interesting point of view from this whole affair from Livernois (if they ever get back to me).

Should I call?

Right, moving swiftly on.

Can someone please give me a detailed breakdown of how to get the Hurst shifter bastardised into the car? This is my next move.

Oh, and Larry_H is a fraud!!!!!!!!!!!! Brian called it waaaaayyy back and I also have his block in my car. I am also stumped how many people have issues and got duped. i honestly thought if he was a fraud no-one would buy blocks from him.

Guess we all got screwed there.

Any chance of everyone getting together for mass leagl action? Cost him a ton of money in lawyers even if it got nowhere? Have much support here from all the guys who got screwed. We have one member who paid for a block and never got it.

 

[BACNBLAK]

Sorry been out of touch - just replying......and thanks for the opinions

I left out one very impotant detail which was that the seller had the transmission until it was delivered to the installer so I never saw it at all. I saw pics of it before it went it but had no idea it was incorrect. I did not know then what i know now. It went straight into the car. As he insisted that it was correct and at my instructions the installer put it in and John had me right there at a point of no return. Its honestly only after doing all this homework post install have I realised the issues and how I feel I was duped.

I have also accepted the tranny in my car (it does shift nicely) and will pay the extra $$$ to find a short shifter, increase the rear diff etc etc and learnt my lesson so I am over that. Its in the car I accept that and I think the way forward is to hopefully get the correct driveshaft and be done with this.

What I will never accept is yes, he said it was a T-56 in the original advertisement but he 100% confirmed it was the same as a Tr6060 (he still argues that to this day which seems very ignorant to me) and confirmed it was the same as the Gt500 transmission which is one of the reasons I went off in that direction buying parts and researching that tranny - I am no expert and took his info to be true. He also backed this up with a pictured link to the D&D TR6060 Kit AND posted the specs to a TR6060. He also covered his arse by ensuring it was installed. As he was a friend i never doubted him but he has made almost no effort to make me happy or fix the problem. Last week a poosible solution was discussed (correct driveshaft and a short shifter) but still havent heard anything.

I am sorry but I call foul on that.

And now that the cat is kind of out of the bag - Bill is Livernois. I have emailed Ric twice now explaining this and have had ZERO response in over a week now. I am pretty sure there will be some interesting point of view from this whole affair from Livernois (if they ever get back to me).

Should I call?

Right, moving swiftly on.

Can someone please give me a detailed breakdown of how to get the Hurst shifter bastardised into the car? This is my next move.

Oh, and Larry_H is a fraud!!!!!!!!!!!! Brian called it waaaaayyy back and I also have his block in my car. I am also stumped how many people have issues and got duped. i honestly thought if he was a fraud no-one would buy blocks from him.

Guess we all got screwed there.

Any chance of everyone getting together for mass leagl action? Cost him a ton of money in lawyers even if it got nowhere? Have much support here from all the guys who got screwed. We have one member who paid for a block and never got it.

You know dude, snotty assholes like you really rub me wrong. Try getting your hands dirty and read this thread yourself. I'm done with you.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239980&highlight=hurst

 

[Quiksilver]

My guess is they're not going to swap transmissions for you so why not make the best of the situation? I have a D&D T56 in my 05 GT for over two years now. FYI, mine came with the crossmember, a Dynatech aluminum driveshaft, and the pos shifter which I swapped for a Hurst 04-06 GTO billet shifter. While not perfect, it's a great improvement. The Hurst is stiff shifting and requires clearancing an internal piston to prevent binding in hot weather. It's very easy to do with the shifter out of the car, I can fill you in should you decide to purchase one. BTW, my Bullitt shift boot pops up in one corner after awhile, a quick smack with the side of my fist puts it back in place. I also taped a piece of hose over the shaft mounting nuts to prevent them from chafing the boot material. For the time being, I would say this is your best shifter solution. Perhaps the new T56 Magnum shifter will fit our setups, care to try it first?

WTF, now I am a snotty asshole?

You were the one who offered the fitment assistance. I also spend time googling the T56 Magnum shifter with no luck. I also popped the link to the hurst to my installer who was very unsure if it can fit.

Am I understanding that to ask for help from those who done the install is lazy and qualifies me to be a snotty asshole????

I live in the Middle East which makes doing anything on a car very difficult. No tuners, no dedicated shops.

 

[ROUSH1711]

Just enjoy the T56 is all I can say.
Im sure they will get you all sorted out
with you so far way,it may take a bit,good luck.