BBR TUNE

[05stroker]

I love MMR!

















Oh, wait, this is a BBR thread...

 

[06 T-RED S/C GT]

I remember asking BBR about writing a bracket tune for my car. He posted up the lamest excuse ever that I would be disqualified if I ran a detuned tune in my car! WTF!!!! I asked Brent at Brenspeed and he not only wrote one, he was willing to revise it several times over the years at no charge. Brenspeed was awesome to me. I then tried Lito and the same deal but better.....datalogging...and he is still revising the tune, dialing it in even better to this day. Now this is service. Having your logs read is about as good as it gets!

IMO datalogging/remote tuning is as close as your going to get to having your car custom tuned on the dyno..

 

[BruceH]

IMO datalogging/remote tuning is as close as your going to get to having your car custom tuned on the dyno..

IMO datalogging is better than being on a dyno. It's the only way to properly tune for driveability and the only way to see what's happening under real world conditions with actual loads.

The dyno is great for safety and legal reasons. I refuse to do any more than 80 on a road pull so my final tuning is done on the dyno. The track would be an even better option.

 

[JUSTA3V]

^agreed. A log while blasting down the 1/4 mile is as good as it gets for real world data.

 

[05stroker]

^^^ Agreed!

 

[wbt]

IMO datalogging is better than being on a dyno. It's the only way to properly tune for driveability and the only way to see what's happening under real world conditions with actual loads.

The dyno is great for safety and legal reasons. I refuse to do any more than 80 on a road pull so my final tuning is done on the dyno. The track would be an even better option.

Agreed sans one thing....cam timing. Sometimes the gains are so minimal it is hard to measure that on the street or track.

These "tuners" who state that a car must be dyno tuned for e85 or this or that change are just out to screw people.

Rev Auto and AED are the two worst culprits of this shyster tactic.

 

[BruceH]

Agreed sans one thing....cam timing. Sometimes the gains are so minimal it is hard to measure that on the street or track.

These "tuners" who state that a car must be dyno tuned for e85 or this or that change are just out to screw people.

Rev Auto and AED are the two worst culprits of this shyster tactic.

I've done my cam retard stuff with datalogs. My method is to measure differences in measured airflow with different amounts of cam retard at wot. I realize there are variables involved with using maf counts but I feel it allowed me to get pretty close to optimum cam retard for the rpms.

Of course that doesn't apply now that I'm locked out.

 

[Unreal]

Agreed. It amazes me when all the locals spew off on how you have to have a "dyno tune" like a dyno magically makes a tune better. It is just at tool to do some pulls without breaking the law. Even then a road tune is far superior.

 

[06 T-RED S/C GT]

IMO datalogging is better than being on a dyno. It's the only way to properly tune for driveability and the only way to see what's happening under real world conditions with actual loads.

The dyno is great for safety and legal reasons. I refuse to do any more than 80 on a road pull so my final tuning is done on the dyno. The track would be an even better option.

The only downfall to datalogging, is finding the right environment/conditions for doing 1/4 mile pull at speeds 60+MPH

So I definitely agree that your best bet, is locating the nearest track which provides the ideal environment/conditions for running a datalog IMO

 

[Sky Render]

The only downfall to datalogging, is finding the right environment/conditions for doing 1/4 mile pull at speeds 60+MPH

So I definitely agree that your best bet, is locating the nearest track which provides the ideal environment/conditions for running a datalog IMO

Yeah, good luck finding a long, straight, empty road in the DC Metro Area.

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[06 T-RED S/C GT]

Yeah, good luck finding a long, straight, empty road in the DC Metro Area.

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What about either Maryland or Virginia, couldn't you locate a track in one of those area's ? In other words, outside of the DC Metro area.. Just saying

 

[cbass]

If you're tuning at the strip, be ready to throw a run to get a nice wide rpm range. Having a car that pulls like a raped ape from 4500 up is awesome and all, but getting it right at lower RPM makes the car more refined to drive around town.

 

[86GT351]

If you're tuning at the strip, be ready to throw a run to get a nice wide rpm range. Having a car that pulls like a raped ape from 4500 up is awesome and all, but getting it right at lower RPM makes the car more refined to drive around town.

There is also a fine line with that also. Just taking it to the strip and going Balls out with an improper tune that can quickly cause engine concerns.

 

[JUSTA3V]

This is where your tuner comes in with proper advice

My data logging started out as a idle tune

Then normal driving with occasional 3000 rpm pulls.

Then he gradual increased the rpm pulls. He got the car very drivable before ever allowing me to got WOT. There was a MAF count data log in there as well somewhere. ITs at this point I would take it to the track for further data logging

We are not talking about loading tune revision one and going WOT thru all the gears and seeing what happens. Lol.

 

[cbass]

There is also a fine line with that also. Just taking it to the strip and going Balls out with an improper tune that can quickly cause engine concerns.

Yeah. Most tuners have a safe base file they can load for typical setups, and then use the data logs to know how far to go. My flash counter has to be somewhere north of 25 or 30 with all the revisions we did to it on the street tune. Took a known safe base, did some driving around and logging, all under 2500 flash a revision, check it. Then WOT from 2-4k, revisions, WOT 2-5k, revisions, WOT 3-7k, revisions. Made a long night of tuning, but the tune was spot on and dropped four tenths and gained three mile at the strip.

 

[Sky Render]

What about either Maryland or Virginia, couldn't you locate a track in one of those area's ? In other words, outside of the DC Metro area.. Just saying

Pretty much the entire state of Maryland and all of northern Virginia counts as "DC Metro Area."

 

[Boaisy]

Who is Doug again?

 

[Gabe]

Who is Doug again?

I think he had something to do with Bamachips

 

[JUSTA3V]

#studdardtunesfolife

 

[06 T-RED S/C GT]

Who is Doug again?

Doug Studdard was the original founder/owner of Bamachips known today as Bama performance..

I think he had something to do with Bamachips

Gabe, Doug was the founder and original owner of Bamachips custom tuning.. He ended up selling his tuning business to American Muscle which has been known as Bama performance ever since..


-Rocky