Detailing Questions-Answered

[Seer]

Dude, this is pretty awesome. Is there one of the $50-$100 and one of the $100-$200 that you would recommend for a black Mustang?

under $100 is going to be zymol carbon or Victoria Concours, although zymol creame is nice too. Victoria will look the wettest, along with creame. Carbon will shine really nicely and last a little longer.

You can sometimes get zymol Concours for $175. Try autoanytging and see what ciuponr codes they are running for sub $200. If not glasur or ital.

Just the smell of zymol waxes are worth it especially Concours.

 

[Fuerte]

More questions for some future purchases.

Now I am a novice on this. But what kind of basic pads and chemicals would you guys recommend for me for a first time user of any buffer?

 

[LindsayEOD]

under $100 is going to be zymol carbon or Victoria Concours, although zymol creame is nice too. Victoria will look the wettest, along with creame. Carbon will shine really nicely and last a little longer.

You can sometimes get zymol Concours for $175. Try autoanytging and see what ciuponr codes they are running for sub $200. If not glasur or ital.

Just the smell of zymol waxes are worth it especially Concours.

As always Seer, thanks. I appreciate it.

 

[Seer]

More questions for some future purchases.

Now I am a novice on this. But what kind of basic pads and chemicals would you guys recommend for me for a first time user of any buffer?

basic kit.

Porter cable 7424 and buy the following in 5.5"

2-3 orange compound pads
2-3 white polishing pads
2-3 gray finishing / application pads

That's if you are using the basic lake country color setup.

Polishes I'd do the following:

Menzerna super intensive polish po85rd and power finish. You can also additionally buy menzerna nano polish 106ff as a decent medium polish.

If going with meguiars polishes buy #205 and #105.

Make sure you have quality microfiber towels (not ones you find at pep boys) or else polishing your car is futile. Also buy pad cleaner and conditioner. Snappy clean is good to clean out pads. Only use a pad on every two to three panels then switch to another one for what application you need.

 

[Fuerte]

basic kit.

Porter cable 7424 and buy the following in 5.5"

2-3 orange compound pads
2-3 white polishing pads
2-3 gray finishing / application pads

That's if you are using the basic lake country color setup.

Polishes I'd do the following:

Menzerna super intensive polish po85rd and power finish. You can also additionally buy menzerna nano polish 106ff as a decent medium polish.

If going with meguiars polishes buy #205 and #105.

Make sure you have quality microfiber towels (not ones you find at pep boys) or else polishing your car is futile.

Thanks Seer you are boss when it comes to this it seems.

 

[Seer]

Thanks Seer you are boss when it comes to this it seems.

np, just here to help

 

[mikeysgt]

^ looks like with that post about pads I'm set on my next purchase. Pads and waffle weave drying towel. I'll be trying out the blackfire products I ordered a while ago when they were on sale and hopefully get to work out some of the paint defects on my car soon.

 

[cwhit23]

This is a noob question, but when it comes to sealants, is there going to be any difference if applied and taken off by hand vs a buffer?

 

[zinc02gt]

This is a noob question, but when it comes to sealants, is there going to be any difference if applied and taken off by hand vs a buffer?

It's generally easier to get a thinner and more even coat by machine, but I prefer doing sealants and waxes by hand.

 

[Seer]

This is a noob question, but when it comes to sealants, is there going to be any difference if applied and taken off by hand vs a buffer?

zinc hit the nail on the head, you want thin, even coats. A machine can apply a better coat than your hand can. When applying, more is not better when it comes to waxes and sealants.

A heavy coat does not mean more protection, as you will always buff off the excess.

 

[Jeffk]

Wow, there are really waxes that cost $700?

 

[Seer]

Wow, there are really waxes that cost $700?

Theres really waxes that cost upwards of $10,000

 

[Jeffk]

Wow! It better repel anything and kill birds that try to soil on it for that price.

 

[Seer]

Wow! It better repel anything and kill birds that try to soil on it for that price.

No it doesn't do any of those things

 

[John@Lethal]

Wow, there are really waxes that cost $700?

Theres really waxes that cost upwards of $10,000

A luxury car care company in London is now offering just the thing to spread all over your million-dollar automobile: car wax that costs GBP24,000 (US$37,070). The folks at Brough and Howarth claim that their Definitive Wax Marble is the world’s most expensive car wax, and one would assume they’re probably right. Given that there’s currently only one pot of the substance in existence, it’s also a safe bet that it’s the rarest.

Pretty wild stuff. There are others out there

How does $30,000 sound? No, that’s not a typo, but it is what automotive wax producer Zymol is charging for its Solaris Glaze car wax.

 

[John@Lethal]

Wow! It better repel anything and kill birds that try to soil on it for that price.

Yeah, no. Surprisingly they don't last long and they aren't designed to provide protection like Sealants or Hybrid waxes.

 

[Mach2burnout]

So, just exactly what does a $30K wax do for your ride, I mean really even the $700 stuff to me is just rediculous.

 

[Seer]

Yeah, no. Surprisingly they don't last long and they aren't designed to provide protection like Sealants or Hybrid waxes.

I agree to some extent and disagree to another.

The "lower" end Zymols do not last as long as sealants. The upper echelon estate glaze Zymols do have quite a bit of durability to them. But with their "life time refills" most owners, tend to apply multiple coats so true durability testing isn't really done.

But if you compare Blackfire Wet Diamond Durability (a sealant that is on the lower scale of durability) vs Zymol Vintage they will get about the same length of use.

Now we are not questioning which one looks better, that is subjective.

 

[Seer]

So, just exactly what does a $30K wax do for your ride, I mean really even the $700 stuff to me is just rediculous.

Appearance... properly prepped vehicle using a $20 wax vs. one with a $700 wax, there is a visible difference. They are certainly not magical, but they do look a good bit different than most waxes you have seen before.

Keep in mind, a lot of these cars that are wearing the $2000+ estate glaze waxes are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and do nothing but compete in Concours class car shows.

They're not for everyone, I personally own Zymol Vintage, for as much as I use it, it was a good deal to me, as it is a hobby I enjoy.

 

[doogie]

Hey Seer, you mention/recommend Opti-guard quite often and either my searching is terrible or it has a slightly different product name. Any links/details are appreciated.