Fuktard and the FRPP cams

[Mustangfreak]

I've been looking at these cams for a little bit, and after seeing vids of them on youtube, I want them. My question is, will they work well with a blower?

http://www.suttonhp.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=765&DEPARTMENT_ID=253

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1mYzsxMbo4

 

[08GOGT]

The 2 things you would have to look at first is the overlap, if the cam keeps the exhaust valve open to long while the intake opens then they would be bad for a boosted setup.

Also because they are made for no springs you would have to watch out for Valve float as a boosted car can cause valve float where as the same setup & same RPM could be fine while N/A.

I would rather go with a custom grind or one of the comp cams NSR grinds for a blown setup as you will see the best gains and for about the smae price.

If these ford cams drop down to the $500 range then they would be a hell of a sweet deal, but for the current price there are alot of options to choose from.

 

[MattP343]

There is a huge thread on them around here somewhere, as is one on the TMS forums

 

[marcspaz]

All of the research I have done shows me that these are NOT FRPP cams. Ford Racing does not have any performance cams for the mod 3v listed on their website or in the 2008 PP catalog.

I also called FRPP Tech support and 2 dealers. They all said that there are no 4.6L 3v performance cams available from FRPP, only 4.6L 4v cams.

I am not saying don't buy the cams or that they are not good...I'm just saying they are not FRPP. Makes me a bit stand-off on buying them.

Also, the Comp Cams XFI NSR cams have more lift with a higher duration = breath better = more power

 

[nmeofdst82]

All of the research I have done shows me that these are NOT FRPP cams. Ford Racing does not have any performance cams for the mod 3v listed on their website or in the 2008 PP catalog.

I also called FRPP Tech support and 2 dealers. They all said that there are no 4.6L 3v performance cams available from FRPP, only 4.6L 4v cams.

I am not saying don't buy the cams or that they are not good...I'm just saying they are not FRPP. Makes me a bit stand-off on buying them.

Also, the Comp Cams XFI NSR cams have more lift with a higher duration = breath better = more power

They are definitely, FRPP cams. They're telling you that because they were just released.
Here is a thread here that references them and there is a link inside there to some videos on another site I believe. http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6190&highlight=cams

 

[marcspaz]

They are definitely, FRPP cams. They're telling you that because they were just released.
Here is a thread here that references them and there is a link inside there to some videos on another site I believe. http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6190&highlight=cams

I have read that entire post before. I just skimmed it now. That doesn't prove that they are FRPP cams... I won't believe those cams are FRPP until I see Sutton post an FRPP part number that I can use to call Ford Racing and order one.

As far as the cams being new..that's wrong. I saw that Sutton page for the first time in January of 2007 (a year and a half ago). I highly doubt the manufacturer and their vendors want to keep items that are for sale a secrect from the public regardless of how old or new the parts are. I'm sure they would not have very good sales if that was the case.

 

[marcspaz]

Dude, I'll tell you what...Justin (the guy who owns the company in that video) is at the NMRA race this weekend. He is gonna be back Tuesday. I'll call him and ask him what the FRPP part number is. That should confirm it one way or another...

 

[onebadgsx]

here is the part number M-6550-3v, search that number on the frpp web site and you will find the cams. also call any frpp dealer and give them that number and it will be listed.

 

[sbgt05]

I'm not sure if these are the ones you guys are talking about:

M-6550-3V

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=10309

 

[marcspaz]

That is a worthless part number...

I called Tyson's Ford and Cowle's Ford. Neither of them have the part number listed.

I also just got off the phone with FRPP...Like JUST NOW. That part number is NOT for sale. It is ONLY in prototype right now. There is currently no estamited date of availability, if ever.

Sorry guys. Don't get hustled, do your research...

 

[onebadgsx]

call tommie vaughn ford, they are 1 of the top 10 frpp dealers and they sell them as well. they just starting shipping.

 

[marcspaz]

call tommie vaughn ford, they are 1 of the top 10 frpp dealers and they sell them as well. they just starting shipping.

I'm not sure what good calling another dealer will do if FRPP is saying they are not for sale but...

I called Tommie Vaughn at their toll free number and they said the same thing. It's not available from FRPP.

http://www.tommievaughnford.com/Info/home.aspx

Sorry guys, just aint happening.

IMHO, Sutton appears to be selling counterfeit FRPP 3v performance cams.

 

[SONICBOOST]

Jeeze, who gives a shit where the cam came from!! Is that gonna answer his question?

 

[Mustangfreak]

Jeeze, who gives a shit where the cam came from!! Is that gonna answer his question?

exactly lol

 

[marcspaz]

Jeeze, who gives a shit where the cam came from!! Is that gonna answer his question?

exactly lol

Dude, if there is no such thing as FFRP "hot rod" cams for a 4.6L 3v and they are saying they're selling them, then you have NO IDEA what they are sending you, if anything.

I don't feel like getting fucked for $800 and I am not putting something in my car when I don't know what it is. and I am sure as hell not going to tell Mustangfreak they are gonna work and he should buy them.

But hey, if you are interested, I have a nice bridge for sale in your area... If you don't want help, don't fucking ask for it...

 

[SONICBOOST]

LOL! You're not really helping him but I guess you do have a point. Even if the cam came from freaking Egypt thats not gonna explain if it works we'll with F/I or not.


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[marcspaz]

Well, look at it like this...

If I say "will a gig-a-watt flux capacitor get me the 15 lbs of boost I want out of my KB?" or how about "can you tell me if green unicorns are taller than white unicorns?"

you can't answer those questions because there is no such thing as a gig-a-watt flux capacitor or unicorns...

But I'll be happy to sell you both!!! LOL

 

[SONICBOOST]

Yeah but I can't go out and test to see if a gig-a-watt flux capacitor will give me 15lbs out of my KB. I can't go and see if a green unicorn is taller than a white. The cam is real but mis-named I guess. MUSTANGFREAK, change the name of your thread to " Will this mis-named cam work we'll with a blower?".

 

[05mustang_TT_charged]

Here is a thread from another forum about the Hot Rod cams. A couple guys talked to people at FRPP and confirmed they were shipping the cams out.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/2005/70123-frpp-cams.html

 

[Boss281]

Here is a thread from another forum about the Hot Rod cams. A couple guys talked to people at FRPP and confirmed they were shipping the cams out.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/2005/70123-frpp-cams.html

I spent some time over on Modded. Some of those guys regurgitate what they hear on the net and have no idea what they are talking about. Most seem worried about sound and are making the usual extraordinary HP claims that don't jibe with us NA folks that actually do real before/after dynos.

My calls to Ford confirm what the Spaz is telling you. Prototypes have gone out to several shops, and they HOPE to start shipping "soon". I've been researching this myself since I'm considering using a different cam (I have comp stage 3s) with ported heads in the fall.

To answer the original question, I'm not seeing anything from FRPP regarding use with a blower. Comp, BBR and I think Crane have different grinds for NA and FI, so my tendency would be to look there if you're ready to buy. Or better yet, just give Sutton a call...

John