Installing a paxton novi 2200.

[gizmo5]

LOL wut?

I've read that post a couple times, but I'm struggling a bit man. Can you clarify?

Brad has typing dyslexia... I deal with it everyday.

 

[Wnt2gofst]

LOL wut?

I've read that post a couple times, but I'm struggling a bit man. Can you clarify?

Lund tuned my car for convertor. Ran worse times. Shifted all wrong. And made 100whp less. No refund blamed my computer code. Original tuner came back to town fixed all issues.

from my S4 in your sisters bed

 

[konablue11gt]

I live in Arizona, and to my knowledge, there are no competent local tuners that I'd feel comfortable letting do the work. With a remote Lund tune (for a blower) now becoming less appealing, I'm left with no way to get a tune that I feel comfortable with short of driving to Texas (as I hear they've got some good ones) or flying a tuner here to Phoenix. Neither are practical or cost-effective.

This sucks because I've just about run out of ricer appearance mods to do to my car (GT500 steering wheel is on the way, as are my '13 GT500 brakes) so the next step for me was a Paxton. Perhaps I'll need to just stick to a cold air kit and a canned tune.

Paul.

Paul,

I'll try to answer your concerns based on my experience with Forced induction and Lund tuning. You can in fact get a good remote tune from not only Lund but several good tuners that offer the service. If your biggest concern is a popped motor then if you stay within reason, don't pulley down and go for more than 8 lbs of boost USE GOOD GAS ALWAYS and be happy with 600 ish RWHP your fine going that route. If you want 750 RWHP and going to try 10-12 lbs of boost your on barrowed time. Only you can answer what your goals are. I was in your boat over a year ago I kept reading all these horror stories about #8's popping and after a lot of reading research and conversations. I chose Lund for my tune and had Terry and the guys at finishline do my install ..They then took me to the dyno and Terry personally got in my car and talking back and forth with Ken (Lund) dyno tuned my car. I haven't had one issue since but I also havent gotten greedy. Im in the process now of saving up for my forged bottom end and when that happens I have a 3.33 pulley to add more boost. Until then the car brings a smile to my face every day ...

 

[moostang09]

That's great to hear!! Thanks man!! ^^^^

 

[Kenaizer]

Listen to gizmo5 everyone. He might be speaking from experience...

The closer you get to the edge, the more likely you are to fall off.

I personally don't have any issues to report from my experience with Lund. I was a bit of a tough customer and eventually got to deal with Lund Sr. though. Maybe that's the ticket.

Keep in mind that people are more likely to post on forums about things that go wrong, than things that go right. I'm just as guilty as the next guy.

 

[stang8psi]

wasn't your car tuned by BBR first though?

you sent me a pm stating that it ran horrible on the BBR tune, and ended up having lund tune it after that.

not past idle and on stepped log!
so no

And Jon Lund tuned my car in person... I had a 3.8" (stock Pulley) and no more than 250-300 miles on my car before a ring went bad... COuld it have been on the edge? Sure.. Does stuff happen? Yup.. The only issue I had with the tune is the stalling issue that was NEVER rectified and it really pissed me off! but when the car didn't stall ( anytime it was moving) it ran good. Was it his fault no, did it blow with his tune loaded yea.. but like said before could have had bad gas.. car did add timing on it's own 20-21* why ?? Not sure.. Just some things for others to watch and ask if some of these issues are rectified.

 

[Paul.]

For me, I have no desire to push the car, pulley it down, or try to be a world-beater. I would be absolutely happy and content with somewhere around 600 rwhp, and nice quiet stock exhaust.

I've had enough super heavily modified cars in my life, and they were all giant headaches and money pits. That's why I have a stock coyote now. I want to drive the car, not work on it, or worry about it.

Who are the good alternatives for a solid remote tune? Who else is everyone using? It would be nice to have an inventory of the various vendors that folks on the board are using. I'm not counting out Lund, because I have to believe that guy knows as much or more about tuning Coyotes as anyone else on the planet.

Paul.

 

[Wnt2gofst]

For me, I have no desire to push the car, pulley it down, or try to be a world-beater. I would be absolutely happy and content with somewhere around 600 rwhp, and nice quiet stock exhaust.

I've had enough super heavily modified cars in my life, and they were all giant headaches and money pits. That's why I have a stock coyote now. I want to drive the car, not work on it, or worry about it.

Who are the good alternatives for a solid remote tune? Who else is everyone using? It would be nice to have an inventory of the various vendors that folks on the board are using. I'm not counting out Lund, because I have to believe that guy knows as much or more about tuning Coyotes as anyone else on the planet.

Paul.

If your going to keep safe you'll have no issue. Guys like gizmo and me push are cars hard. I knew since I bought the car it was be oushing super hard. Th A t the day would come it would break. Just sucks that it might been caused by rain and water. Could be coincidence that it got hurt that same day. But filter wet, some water oil in catch can has me believing it wasn't. Only sucks is my motor fund was driven away after my move. But oh well I guess it will end up going on credit card till I get my big check in august.

I think lund is a great tuner. I just had a bad run in and something or one was really to blame.

from my S4 in your sisters bed

 

[Seer]

For me, I have no desire to push the car, pulley it down, or try to be a world-beater. I would be absolutely happy and content with somewhere around 600 rwhp, and nice quiet stock exhaust.

I've had enough super heavily modified cars in my life, and they were all giant headaches and money pits. That's why I have a stock coyote now. I want to drive the car, not work on it, or worry about it.

Who are the good alternatives for a solid remote tune? Who else is everyone using? It would be nice to have an inventory of the various vendors that folks on the board are using. I'm not counting out Lund, because I have to believe that guy knows as much or more about tuning Coyotes as anyone else on the planet.

Paul.

Remote:
Livernois
VMP
JPC
JDM
JMS
Brooks Speed

Depending on where you are in the country:

Revolution Auto in Maryland
Blankenship in Kentucky
Wicked Motorsports in Rhode Island
Whoever tuned Wnt2gofst in Texas

Just to name a few alternatives.

 

[beefcake]

I live in Arizona, and to my knowledge, there are no competent local tuners that I'd feel comfortable letting do the work. With a remote Lund tune (for a blower) now becoming less appealing, I'm left with no way to get a tune that I feel comfortable with short of driving to Texas (as I hear they've got some good ones) or flying a tuner here to Phoenix. Neither are practical or cost-effective.

This sucks because I've just about run out of ricer appearance mods to do to my car (GT500 steering wheel is on the way, as are my '13 GT500 brakes) so the next step for me was a Paxton. Perhaps I'll need to just stick to a cold air kit and a canned tune.

Paul.

my car is remote tuned and runs in the 8's. There are 0 issues with a remote tune vs a tune in person. The only difference is if there is an issue with the car itself that needs to be diagnosed.

Anyone, no matter what the s/c or tuner that wants mid 10's on pump gas is pushing the limits.

Everyone gets so hung up on dyno numbers and wants 620-650 rwhp on pump gas, then cry's foul when it blows. I watch a lot of the logs go back and forth on remote tunes, and Ken / Jon will tell you that your on the edge / too much boost, etc...

If you plan on dropping a pulley size from stock, first thing you should be doing is adding torco at a minimum.

It's all far how you want to push / play

Ask Gizmo, he'll tell ya, He keeps telling me he wants the "big boy" pulley the 2.95, and I keep telling him no. I tell him i'll do whatever he wants, but imo, it's too much power for longevity, even on a built engine.

Paul,

I'll try to answer your concerns based on my experience with Forced induction and Lund tuning. You can in fact get a good remote tune from not only Lund but several good tuners that offer the service. If your biggest concern is a popped motor then if you stay within reason, don't pulley down and go for more than 8 lbs of boost USE GOOD GAS ALWAYS and be happy with 600 ish RWHP your fine going that route. If you want 750 RWHP and going to try 10-12 lbs of boost your on barrowed time. Only you can answer what your goals are. I was in your boat over a year ago I kept reading all these horror stories about #8's popping and after a lot of reading research and conversations. I chose Lund for my tune and had Terry and the guys at finishline do my install ..They then took me to the dyno and Terry personally got in my car and talking back and forth with Ken (Lund) dyno tuned my car. I haven't had one issue since but I also havent gotten greedy. Im in the process now of saving up for my forged bottom end and when that happens I have a 3.33 pulley to add more boost. Until then the car brings a smile to my face every day ...

Exactly

For me, I have no desire to push the car, pulley it down, or try to be a world-beater. I would be absolutely happy and content with somewhere around 600 rwhp, and nice quiet stock exhaust.

I've had enough super heavily modified cars in my life, and they were all giant headaches and money pits. That's why I have a stock coyote now. I want to drive the car, not work on it, or worry about it.

Who are the good alternatives for a solid remote tune? Who else is everyone using? It would be nice to have an inventory of the various vendors that folks on the board are using. I'm not counting out Lund, because I have to believe that guy knows as much or more about tuning Coyotes as anyone else on the planet.

Paul.

 

[wazslow]

I think the best thing you can do to keep it safe is keep the stock 3.8 pulley and stock manifold on the car. Limit rpm to around 7,000 and with a solid tune/good fuel it will live. Start putting the boss manifold and headers on the car and spin it to 7,500 + rpm and you start making too much boost even with the stock pulley. Even the stock pulley and running it to only 7,000 rpm makes more power than stock tires will hold. If you decide to get more aggressive then start putting money aside for a shortblock.

 

[gizmo5]

I've gone back and forth. I've talked to 5,000 people it seems. I'm now at the point where I'm going to run a 3.47 on 93 pump 95% of the time, and will have an E85 tune with a 3.3 pulley. And that's about as far as I'm gonna push it, and my motor is a fully built race engine now. Some guy ran a 9.03 in an auto with it. I forgot his name, not that important.

lol! ;-)

Sent from your moms room...

 

[Mystickeith50]

my car is remote tuned and runs in the 8's. There are 0 issues with a remote tune vs a tune in person. The only difference is if there is an issue with the car itself that needs to be diagnosed.

Anyone, no matter what the s/c or tuner that wants mid 10's on pump gas is pushing the limits.

Everyone gets so hung up on dyno numbers and wants 620-650 rwhp on pump gas, then cry's foul when it blows. I watch a lot of the logs go back and forth on remote tunes, and Ken / Jon will tell you that your on the edge / too much boost, etc...

If you plan on dropping a pulley size from stock, first thing you should be doing is adding torco at a minimum.

It's all far how you want to push / play

Ask Gizmo, he'll tell ya, He keeps telling me he wants the "big boy" pulley the 2.95, and I keep telling him no. I tell him i'll do whatever he wants, but imo, it's too much power for longevity, even on a built engine.



Exactly

Terry with all due respect, you get much better treatment than the "average" customer. Now I will say this, I think you probably offer a better more informed gateway for your customers to get with and access Lund Racing than some other vendors....from my experience of course. Imo you seem to care a little more than some other shops....

 

[beefcake]

Terry with all due respect, you get much better treatment than the "average" customer. Now I will say this, I think you probably offer a better more informed gateway for your customers to get with and access Lund Racing than some other vendors....from my experience of course. Imo you seem to care a little more than some other shops....

I take CS very seriously

 

[konablue11gt]

I take CS very seriously

That's why ive sent so many people looking your way.

 

[JoeDirty]

Yeah BeefCakes a goodguy..
Ken on the other hand is a walking DBag...
If most people would do some research about him they would come across his screw ups and failed attempt at being a Performance shop owner....
I cant comment on John bc ive never dealt with him but I hope he baby sits Ken and checks the tunes..
Im willing to bet the popped motors that had Lund tunes has Kens Sigs on it.....

 

[Wnt2gofst]

I take CS very seriously

And this is why I contaced you about having engine done. And I know with you and ken/lund doing car that way it will be perfect.

from my S4 in your sisters bed

 

[5PointOHNO]

Yeah BeefCakes a goodguy..
Ken on the other hand is a walking DBag...
If most people would do some research about him they would come across his screw ups and failed attempt at being a Performance shop owner....
I cant comment on John bc ive never dealt with him but I hope he baby sits Ken and checks the tunes..
Im willing to bet the popped motors that had Lund tunes has Kens Sigs on it.....

A friend of mine has a KenB tune in his Paxton 5.0. This friend had an installer do the work and Ken was extremely patient. Both the installer and my friend insisted that the failure to fire up the car was due to tune issues... Ken gave him 11, yes 11 revisions of the tune trying to get it sorted.

In the end, the installer left caps on the injectors ... I don't even know how that's possible, but it happened. If I were Ken, I would have blown a gasket, but he was cool as a cucumber.

I'm not a fanboy, but I have had really positive experiences with all the folks at LR, and wan't to temper the bad with the good.

 

[beefcake]

Yeah BeefCakes a goodguy..
Ken on the other hand is a walking DBag...
If most people would do some research about him they would come across his screw ups and failed attempt at being a Performance shop owner....
I cant comment on John bc ive never dealt with him but I hope he baby sits Ken and checks the tunes..
Im willing to bet the popped motors that had Lund tunes has Kens Sigs on it.....

Obviously a bogus screen name from someone afraid to show their true name.

Modular Depot did very well while they were here in Cincinnati. I had several cars done by them and all performed great.

I don't know how you would call being bought out by a multi millionaire, and then recruited to one of the 2 top tuning companies in the country a failure.

As far as what happened with MD after Ken sold, that would have nothing to do with him.

It's funny that you come on with a fake screen name as a coward to try to smear someones name, yet afraid to show your own.

 

[Seer]

That definitely isn't me. I have no problem saying my motor popped with a lund racing tune on it.