MindIfISmoke's? Built Part 3.

TurboX

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Told ya buzz could help ya out with that man.

Now tonight I restart trying to build that damn firewire cable

Thank you very much buzz! I really appreciate it!

No Prob, Im a gear head but setting up the cams has to have been 1 of the trickiest things Ive ever done. I had lots of help via PMs and phone calls to people on this board when I did it, just trying to pass it on.
 

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Did it show up OK? I put insurance on it just incase.

Threw the battery in the trunk and finished some more wire tuck action! Its looking good fellers!
 
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Thank you and will do boss!

Just picked my "revised" up pipe and precision 46mm gate up from turbo technologies!
 
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Would anyone want to chime in on when it is a good idea to go to a larger wg? On3 is a 38 correct?
 

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Would anyone want to chime in on when it is a good idea to go to a larger wg? On3 is a 38 correct?


Alot of people still get this topic confused. The only time you need a large gate is if your trying to control really low boost like 6psi or less and your current gate isnt doing it or spiking. Think about it, to keep the turbo barely making boost you need to divert alot of exhaust away from it through the gate so the larger the gate needs to be to prevent a boost spike in the upper rpms as flow increases. The higher boost you run the smaller gate you need. If you running a turbo that can make a max of 20psi and you want to run 20 psi you dont even need a gate. The higher boost you run the smaller the gate can be and still divert enough exhaust away from the turbo. Displacement of the motor plays a large role in this as well. Alot of guys think they need to get a bigger wastegate when they are upping the boost, its actually the opposite. A small gate can handle larger boost better and really small boost on a big engine needs a big gate. Going bigger on the gate of course doesnt hurt either way, and when using a bigger gate with a boost controller it will be more responsive and stable when hitting peal boost.

There is a caveat to this, once peak boost is reached as rpm goes up flow goes up while the gate maintains desired boost. If the gate is to small to keep diverting the max cfm you will get a wavy boost curve or spike in the upper rpms. And again this has alot to do with size of the motor/cfm capability.
 
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Alot of people still get this topic confused. The only time you need a large gate is if your trying to control really low boost like 6psi or less and your current gate isnt doing it or spiking. Think about it, to keep the turbo barely making boost you need to divert alot of exhaust away from it through the gate so the larger the gate needs to be to prevent a boost spike in the upper rpms as flow increases. The higher boost you run the smaller gate you need. If you running a turbo that can make a max of 20psi and you want to run 20 psi you dont even need a gate. The higher boost you run the smaller the gate can be and still divert enough exhaust away from the turbo. Displacement of the motor plays a large role in this as well. Alot of guys think they need to get a bigger wastegate when they are upping the boost, its actually the opposite. A small gate can handle larger boost better and really small boost on a big engine needs a big gate. Going bigger on the gate of course doesnt hurt either way, and when using a bigger gate with a boost controller it will be more responsive and stable when hitting peal boost.

There is a caveat to this, once peak boost is reached as rpm goes up flow goes up while the gate maintains desired boost. If the gate is to small to keep diverting the max cfm you will get a wavy boost curve or spike in the upper rpms. And again this has alot to do with size of the motor/cfm capability.


This explains exactly what my boost logs look like right now.
 

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Up the boost and it will get better lol, I have no issues at 16-18psi with the 38mm gate and the boost controller.

There are quite a few other things that can cause boost waves or spikes like this too. You still on the gate only or a manual controller?
 
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