Need help with clutch install

[TheKurgan]

Don't forget the added 60* turn on top of the 33 lbs for the pressure plate.

That's way too much. It's actually 24ft/lbs with loctite. Flywheel is 85 ft/lb's with loctite. Link to Spec installation instructions...

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/mustangtuning/spec-clutch-install.pdf

 

[TheKurgan]

Don't forget the added 60* turn on top of the 33 lbs for the pressure plate.

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[TheKurgan]

I think the flywheel is 59Ft lbs (which I did) and the clutch itself or pressure plate is 33 Ft lbs factory specs the paper that came with it said use factory specs.

Are you saying you got instructions wiith your clutch that said to use factory specs ? Mine came with Spec instructions and that seems more logical to me since it's not a factory clutch and flywheel, but a Spec clutch and flywheel...

 

[shifter87]

Confused and really late

Find a wood dowel the same size as the pilot shaft. Pack the pilot bearing hole in the end of the crank full of heavy grease. Put the wooden dowel in the bearing about 1/4". Get a hammer and pound of the dowel. The hydraulic action will push the bearing out. Works like a charm. Of course if you want to rent the tool, that's fine too.

I don't really get what you were trying to say but I had already done it and taken it back by the time this was posted. It's a rental deposit you get all of the money back, so I loaned Auto Zone $45

 

[shifter87]

Are you saying you got instructions wiith your clutch that said to use factory specs ? Mine came with Spec instructions and that seems more logical to me since it's not a factory clutch and flywheel, but a Spec clutch and flywheel...

Yeah it said use factory specs it would have been nice to have instructions though I think I am jealous.

I put the flywheel at 59ftlbs and the clutch at 33ftlbs and their was no place for dowel pins which is weird. Seems fine to me seeing that everyone and their great uncle did something different.........Not too much not too little just right.

Yeah I was looking at those instructions to begin with then I realized I hate the guy that made them because he probably got $100 for it and it should start form tear down like other quality instructions.

And it's not spec that wrote these just another home installer: Installation instructions provided by AmericanMuscle customer Chris Cheek\

 

[1fastpony]

Damn.... I've done clutches before, and pretty sure I'll need one SOON in the '07... But this is making me re-think my normal DIY attitude!

Ehh...think its his first time. It's not really that bad if you have a lift and right tools, experience.

 

[jmn444]

No lift here, but that's never been a big issue really...

It's dropping the K-member and likely needing to pull the whipple back off to have clearance for tilting the engine back that all sounds like a pain in the ass.. but I will probably still just do it myself, I don't like other people fucking with my stuff!

 

[BruceH]

No lift here, but that's never been a big issue really...

It's dropping the K-member and likely needing to pull the whipple back off to have clearance for tilting the engine back that all sounds like a pain in the ass.. but I will probably still just do it myself, I don't like other people fucking with my stuff!

I've done it plenty of times with the Whipple on. Just knowing to drop the k member will make it alot easier on you. The first time I did it I fought the tranny for a few hours before giving in and dropping the k member. The tranny really looks like it will come out, but it won't. You can also clock it.

 

[jmn444]

THAT makes me happy to hear!

 

[shifter87]

I've done it plenty of times with the Whipple on. Just knowing to drop the k member will make it alot easier on you. The first time I did it I fought the tranny for a few hours before giving in and dropping the k member. The tranny really looks like it will come out, but it won't. You can also clock it.

A MEN TO THAT. going out and going in are a cinch with the k member lowered.

remember you might only need to losed the 4 front K member bolts and not the rears, unless absolutely need be( more than 2-3 inches).

 

[1fastpony]

Tilt, drop, and clock, then you can ROCK'ON Baby!!

Oh yeah...make sure you know all your torque spec's and, not from SPEC.

Oh! sorry.
Not really, hate SPEC stuff on these new cars... unreliable. I have to say for the last 5 plus years the after market clutch providers have gotten the worst rep of any after market performance part for our cars. And, only folks with these s197's would know.
Mcleod or Exedy or go home is what I hear.
But, thats another thread...and a DAMN LONG ONE TOO.

 

[jmn444]

McLeod will be my poison when the time comes!

 

[shifter87]

I find it weird that the dowel pins that came with it don't have a spot. I was tossing all the bosses and found the dowel pins and realized that no matter how you turn the clutch to mate on the flywheel they don't have a hole exposed.

Anyone else no use the dowel pins I don't see there purpose other than alignment if they had a valid hole.

 

[shifter87]

McLeod will be my poison when the time comes!

RXT or RST?

I would have had to go RXT and trust me I though about it twin disc are highly recommended but costly $400 more than mine although it has about 150 more ft lb of torque more capacity.

 

[jmn444]

RST.

Until I blow the current engine, no plans to exceed what I'm making now, and even when it's shortblock time, it will still be pump gas and I cannot fathom pushing past what the RST can handle.

 

[jmn444]

where do you see torque ratings for the mcleod clutches though? I've only seen hp ratings...

 

[shifter87]

No clutch should be based on HP should only be torque although some companies go astray I see that McLeod only using HP.

 

[jmn444]

Yeah, that's always bugged me on the McLeod's, but have yet to read something negative on them.

 

[TheKurgan]

Yeah, that's always bugged me on the McLeod's, but have yet to read something negative on them.

There's been plenty of negative experiences with McLeod. I'm not saying it's a bad clutch, but I've seen just as many negative posts about McLeod as Spec. I think alot of these failures are due to install though...both Spec and McLeod.

 

[jmn444]

Well shit.... I must have been tired of looking by the time I decided on McLeod then, I was originally looking at spec, and seemed like everywhere I looked, it was bad bad bad... and seemed like within a lot of that was mcleod being praised as the replacement...

What kind of problems are people having with them?

Can I derail this thread any further???