One More #8 Kids!

[DIB5.0]

Ex ricer gone muscle Chinese kid in Soho that sys he had a stock one let go. He has pics, work order and said he will post them on Soho Mustang Forums.

 

[benjytps]

a little food for thought, most people that leave their Mustang bone stock do not frequent these forums and therefore do not make their problems known. I can assure you that there are cases of bone stock cars with the exact same issue. crusify if you like but just because it is not posted on here or other forums doesnt mean it is not happening.

 

[BAKnBLK2010]

a little food for thought, most people that leave their Mustang bone stock do not frequent these forums and therefore do not make their problems known. I can assure you that there are cases of bone stock cars with the exact same issue. crusify if you like but just because it is not posted on here or other forums doesnt mean it is not happening.

It's pretty easy for you to type this kind of response. What is not so easy is for you to prove what you have just typed. Proof please or refrain from adding to the already rampant speculation that already has cluttered this thread and many others.

 

[302]

a little food for thought, most people that leave their Mustang bone stock do not frequent these forums and therefore do not make their problems known. I can assure you that there are cases of bone stock cars with the exact same issue. crusify if you like but just because it is not posted on here or other forums doesnt mean it is not happening.

Sound logic, however we have members who work for Ford and they made some calls and have stated it was only modified cars.

 

[linnE]

good point Benjy..It is only common sense that people who dont modify their vehicles are not going to frequent these types of websites.

This is why we need to have factual documention from the source who is voiding the warranties,Ford Motor Co. It will all come out eventually with an offical statement from Ford. Until then speculation will run rampant and be cannon fodder for sites to discuss.

Warranty voiding has always in the past been at the discretion of the dealer. But with the 2011s it seems that Ford has become more aggressive and the dealers have taken a discovery role passing diagnostics along to Ford for the decision.

 

[JJ@WMS]

That was my point. pacettr is right to a point where they can just void it and say whatever.. its up then to the person what to do next. If they go to court though I would think the judge would want the mfg or dealer to then prove the mods caused the issue. Even then the mfg will most likely have a better hand. But if there is a few cases of stock cars having the exact same issues then I dont think they will gate away with it..

someones got to have contact with main ford engineers to see if there are cases being hidden

My point is that you wont go to court you will go to binding arbitration. Nobody should throw the word court out there to remedy a voided warranty situation. It is no cost to you to use the BBB.

JJ

 

[Fullboogie]

JJ - where does it say binding arbitration is mandatory? In the sales contract? That must be something new, because that was not the case several years ago.

 

[kyoshosp2]

That is what I was told. I know the owner of the car and he had nothing done to it.



Reading Comprehension owns you... "TOP SIDE"...no where did I say they looked at the side of the piston. It isn't my car and I did not need to take pictures for any reason. The tuned car will have the motor torn down and rebuilt. The stock tune car is getting a complete motor and I do not believe they were tearing it down. He mentioned it being shipped back to Ford. Also standing there and looking through the scope kind of gives me a little first hand information. I am not speculating anything as I looked at it.



Rear Cylinder on Driver's Side.

Here is the place they are at.

http://terrebonnemotorco.dealerconnection.com/?lang=en

Give them a call and see if they will tell you anything. They are a very high volume Ford Dealer in Louisiana and may not. I don't know so someone give it a shot and see what they say.

I have no reason to make anything up. Talk to the Service Manager and see if he will tell you.

I'm here too .. it was a bone stock 2011 black brembo car. just over 6k miles STOCK.. they ran that Mod 9 check BS on it and that burnt one guy here that had a tune and removed it.. the stock car checked out and got a new motor.. i met the guy and service advisor.. My 2012 auto is in due to tranny troubles and first thing they wanted to do was check for a tune..

 

[Rob72]

My point is that you wont go to court you will go to binding arbitration. Nobody should throw the word court out there to remedy a voided warranty situation. It is no cost to you to use the BBB.

JJ

Just for clarification the Better Business Bureau is a private organization and cannot reinstate your warranty from Ford.

 

[05mustang_TT_charged]

I'm here too .. it was a bone stock 2011 black brembo car. just over 6k miles STOCK.. they ran that Mod 9 check BS on it and that burnt one guy here that had a tune and removed it.. the stock car checked out and got a new motor.. i met the guy and service advisor.. My 2012 auto is in due to tranny troubles and first thing they wanted to do was check for a tune..

Damn that makes 2 of us from the same town and go to the same dealership having first hand knowledge of it. This must be crazy!!!

My question is: Did any of you silly fucks call the dealership to ask? or would that give you something to not cry about when people come post factual information?

 

[white05gt]

Damn that makes 2 of us from the same town and go to the same dealership having first hand knowledge of it. This must be crazy!!!

My question is: Did any of you silly fucks call the dealership to ask? or would that give you something to not cry about when people come post factual information?

It's a conspiracy

 

[05mustang_TT_charged]

It's a conspiracy

haha, that will be next. Eric knows just as much as I do. We have some of the same friends at the dealership and he is really good friends with the Service Manager.

 

[BruceH]

I wonder if the guy paying $7k for replacement stock parts knows he could buy a whole new aluminator for $8k retail. Probably closer to 7 actual price.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=13113

 

[JJ@WMS]

JJ - where does it say binding arbitration is mandatory? In the sales contract? That must be something new, because that was not the case several years ago.

Just for clarification the Better Business Bureau is a private organization and cannot reinstate your warranty from Ford.

All major car manufacturers that sell cars in the United States have agreed to binding arbitration with the BBB if the need arises. Its not something they advertise but in the back of your owners manual there will be an explanation of what to do in case you dont get satisfaction. No court is needed, no lawyers are needed just the assistance of the BBB if you have a solid case. Its not written in plain english like "hey if you have a problem call the BBB", its more like "if you have a problem call customer care and they can advise you" and then you might get someone who tells you more information on what to do.

The BBB does not reinstate your warranty if the decision is in your favor, however they do make the decision and the manufacturer is bound to that decision, hence the term binding arbitration so if they say to Ford, "fix this gentlemens car and reinstate his warranty" then Ford has to do it. Its kinda like having a third person settle an argument for you. Both sides have their own version of the story and what happened but the third person decides the best way to move forward and both parties agree.

I hope that helps,

JJ

 

[VTXFrank]

All major car manufacturers that sell cars in the United States have agreed to binding arbitration with the BBB if the need arises. Its not something they advertise but in the back of your owners manual there will be an explanation of what to do in case you dont get satisfaction. No court is needed, no lawyers are needed just the assistance of the BBB if you have a solid case. Its not written in plain english like "hey if you have a problem call the BBB", its more like "if you have a problem call customer care and they can advise you" and then you might get someone who tells you more information on what to do.

The BBB does not reinstate your warranty if the decision is in your favor, however they do make the decision and the manufacturer is bound to that decision, hence the term binding arbitration so if they say to Ford, "fix this gentlemens car and reinstate his warranty" then Ford has to do it. Its kinda like having a third person settle an argument for you. Both sides have their own version of the story and what happened but the third person decides the best way to move forward and both parties agree.

I hope that helps,

JJ

This is complete fact. I went through my documentation because this rang a bell along with the fact that we recently bought my wife a new truck. Sure enough, there is one sheet in all of that shit that says no courts, but arbitration. You have to sign it to buy the vehicle.

 

[Thereaper]

The low factory oil fill is the biggest killer of Coyote's.

 

[pacettr]

This is complete fact. I went through my documentation because this rang a bell along with the fact that we recently bought my wife a new truck. Sure enough, there is one sheet in all of that shit that says no courts, but arbitration. You have to sign it to buy the vehicle.

The paper you are referring to is likely the dealer's agreement to arbitrate.

 

[Rob72]

Thank you JJ. $300 an hour for a lawyer is hard to swallow.

 

[Agent007]

There's a 11' with compression issues for sale in our 'S197 mustangs for sale' section! Just thought I would throw another wrench in the spokes!

 

[Steedman07]

In Connecticut, the BBB doesnt even get involved. The Department of Motor vehicles sure does though. The DMV hearing between the customer and the dealer/FMCC will be the deciding factor on what happens. And the DMV is usually pro customer. But if a case went in front of the DMV, and the dealer/FMCC shows proof that the failed part was due in fact to the customers ignoring the rules of the warranty, then the customer would probably lose, unless they have a really good lawyer..