AnotherS197GT's Coyote Swap: The Valve Dropper Special

[Juice]

thank you juice

pics of the location where the orfice tube is located,and obvisouly you must of deleted your dryer bieng the coyote condensor has a dryer built into it, and the custom hose you made to get an idea of what you did thank you

I was not aware the 07 had an orifice tube! LOL And I kept the 07 dryer in the system, so yes, there are 2 dryers. I kept it as simple as possible. I had a shop use the ends off the 2 low pressure suction lines to connect my stock V6 dryer to the Coyote compressor.

I did have to bend the high pressure discharge line some (where the orifice tube should be) to mate with the '13 condenser. I had to do some creative engineering at this connection to the condenser, as the '07's high pressure line is not "plug and play". Some additional O rings and washers were needed, but it works.

I'll have pics today. I need to go over my Evap plumbing to chase down a "large leak detected" code.

 

[Juice]

The low pressure A/C switch is in the line just above the bell housing. I left it as it was, didn't have to do anything with it's wiring.

 

[AnotherS197GT]

Just curious, why did you go through all that work? You can use a relay to keep the stock pressure switches working or you can use the Coyote transducer. I know there is a valve in the Coyote AC that meters flow, but going on almost a year of using the transducer and I haven’t noticed any ill effects.

 

[Juice]

Just curious, why did you go through all that work? You can use a relay to keep the stock pressure switches working or you can use the Coyote transducer. I know there is a valve in the Coyote AC that meters flow, but going on almost a year of using the transducer and I haven’t noticed any ill effects.

Not sure what you mean by "all that work". I replaced the condenser (it was already out for the motor swap) and had one A/C line made. And I had to wire the high pressure transducer anyway. Seemed like the easiest way to get A/C working.

My A/C system is essentially stock for the 2007 mustang, with the compressor, condenser, high and low pressure lines to the compressor replaced.

 

[AnotherS197GT]

It was a lot more work than just wiring up a transducer lol. I didn’t pull my condenser or any of the AC stuff. I just left it all in during the swap, including the compressor.

 

[Juice]

I had to replace the radiator. Somehow I think the V6 radiator is too small to cool the 5.0. lol So no "extra" work to swap condenser out.

 

[fordave]

I will get you some pics, sure. Is there anything particular you need pics of? I'm running the stock shorty headers (that came with the engine)

I had to replace the radiator. Somehow I think the V6 radiator is too small to cool the 5.0. lol So no "extra" work to swap condenser out.

juice very nice setup looks clean, well I guess I'm going to have to come up with a new setup to make it all work with the kit I'm installing, ill post up some pics so you guys can see what i have done so far

 

[fordave]

juice very nice setup looks clean, well I guess I'm going to have to come up with a new setup to make it all work with the kit I'm installing, ill post up some pics so you guys can see what i have done so far

here are some pics of my engine build and my engine compartment after painting it to give it a fresh look

 

[AnotherS197GT]

Bought a Cobra Jet manifold, monoblade , and FRPP CAI last week. Got it installed tonight and got the first log done. Really excited to see what the manifold does for the car. Initial test drive I couldn't really feel any torque loss down low, but it was snowing so I had to take it easy.

 

[stangbass]

I never bothered to try and make the stock FPDM work. I had originally just had it set up so the pump always ran with the key on. I recently installed an 11+ FPDM and got it so that the car primes the fuel system with the key on and the pump only runs when the car is running.

With the 2011 fuel pump control module. Is the module looking for a contstant 12V or Ground from the Restraint control module on Pin 6 to run the pump, or can that lead be left blank? My plan is just to utilize the Pre '11 inertia switch.

 

[AnotherS197GT]

It can be left out. I don't have anything on the RCM pin for my FPDM.

 

[stangbass]

It can be left out. I don't have anything on the RCM pin for my FPDM.

Thank you sir, One last wiring question if you don't mind about the starting system.

I'm a little murky on this particular pin out.

The '11+ has

CPP(clutch pedal postion) -- PIN-19/C175T

SMC(starter motor control ) -- PIN-7/C175B

SMCS( starter motor control sense) -- PIN-37/C175B

START(ignition switch) -- PIN 16/C175B

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I've got the CPP from PIN-33/C175B old harness

I'm pretty sure the SMC = Start enable from PIN-2/C175B old harness

The SMCS I'm guessing = Starter motor req. from PIN-7/C175 old harness

I'm not sure about the START(ignition switch). It looks like the 11+ wiring pulls directly from the ignition switch to the PCM, where the pre '11 routes the ignition start through the SJB.

It looks like the CPP is used in place of the START(ignition switch) or the SMCS on the pre '11, but I'm really not sure.

Once again thanks for any help.

 

[stangbass]

I think I figured a work around. I should be able to just pull the Blue/White Ignition START lead from PIN 32 on the SJB on the old harness, and run it to PIN 16 on C175B on the new harness.

 

[AnotherS197GT]

I don't remember what I did for the starter, sorry. IIRC, I'm not using the SMCS circuit though.

 

[fordave]

It way more fun to yell and swear about where everything is and take 10 minutes to find it.

By any chance do you know what file is used to delete pats I'm not sure if it's possible to get that file from a subscription with ford (flashing the pcm with the Ford coyote control pack file ) I called Ford performance and it seems like they dont have a clue

 

[AnotherS197GT]

Lito gave me my base file and I drove around on that until I had Lund tune the car. Either could get you the correct tune.

 

[stangbass]

Checking out another diagram. It looks like the '11+ SMCS on PIN 37(C175B) is equivalent to pre-'11 PIN 7 CET40(C175B).

Main difference looks like the pre-'11 send the START command straight from the ignition to the starter relay, with the '11+ it goes straight to the PCM and I guess the PCM signals the starter relay. Just a complete guess, but maybe '11+ PCM has this feature to keep you from engaging the starter while the car is running. IDK

I'm going to go ahead and Tee the SMCS PIN 37(175B) from PIN 8 (C192) and I'll just put that on the list of things to check in case of no crank, or fiery explosion.

 

[Juice]

If you can load the Ford Coyote Control Pack Crate_6 tune, it will bypass PATS. This calibration can be loaded to a factory computer and works great, but it will not pass OBD2 emission test. (monitors not working) And no cruise control.

For the fuel pump, I just connected the FP Mon, and FP control circuits at C175B.

I'm currently working on installing a 2013 cluster and get PATS working so I can run a stock emission tune. But it involves a little more wiring than I expected, and it is currently 15*F outside. Project is on hold.....

 

[fordave]

If you can load the Ford Coyote Control Pack Crate_6 tune, it will bypass PATS. This calibration can be loaded to a factory computer and works great, but it will not pass OBD2 emission test. (monitors not working) And no cruise control.

For the fuel pump, I just connected the FP Mon, and FP control circuits at C175B.

I'm currently working on installing a 2013 cluster and get PATS working so I can run a stock emission tune. But it involves a little more wiring than I expected, and it is currently 15*F outside. Project is on hold.....

Juice is this tune available from Ford, I have a buddy that does reflashing and oem programming with a vcm he has a subscription with Ford where he has access to all there files I guess I'm trying to find out if he can locate the tune there, thank you for replyig

 

[Juice]

Juice is this tune available from Ford, I have a buddy that does reflashing and oem programming with a vcm he has a subscription with Ford where he has access to all there files I guess I'm trying to find out if he can locate the tune there, thank you for replyig

Not sure how you can get the file from Ford, your buddy might know. I just started playing with IDS, and everything seems go to by VIN. The Control pack has a blank VIN.

My strategy is ID's as: "M2A3_X01_Crate_Engine_6" when I connect to the car with Forscan. IDS/VCM has trouble identifying the strategy, and I have to enter info manually before IDS lets me do anything. I think IDS is also confused about my 2007 VIN/coyote strategy combo.

I could ask my SCT dealer buddy where he got the Crate_6 file. Diablosport could have loaded that file on thier tuner if I went that route.

Ps: if your buddy figures out a way to load the Crate_6 with IDS, let me know.