BMR Watts Link - Teaser

[Lucky_13]

Which would you recommend for road course use with your new bars?

This WL005 / WL006 (yes, part #'s are official) - is every bit of a $699 - $750 Watts Set-Up....

I will tell you, for a fact, we will be raising the pricing down the road on this piece. We may stagger the pricing, or just raise it all in one shot for 2016....not sure at this point.

That said, we truly price our components on formulas....(this is why our rear sway bar is $420...if you don't believe me) - so, the less it cost to build it, the less our price is.

If this thing sells like we think it will, the pricing may not end up as high as I anticipate 1-2 years down the road.

The diff mount, is the version we planned on shaking the earth with the pricing. That unit, when it gets released....should be that piece that is the $450-$550 Watts.

 

[Smokievol]

Kelly,
Doesn't look like an issue with the pics shown...will the Steeda Mustang Finned Differential Cover work with the chassis mount watts link??

 

[Gabe]

I'm ASSuming that the CHE axle brace won't work with this $549 BMR Watts Link?

 

[tbrock]

sweet mother of pearl tried to use the part number on the website, no love...maybe monday?

 

[nelsonbullitt]

Kelly,
Doesn't look like an issue with the pics shown...will the Steeda Mustang Finned Differential Cover work with the chassis mount watts link??

Ditto.

Was just ready to order the Fay2 watts link.

Kelly, when will these be ready for sale?

Looks like the best of both worlds, 1/2 bushings are poly and 1/2 heim?

Beautiful looking product for sure.

 

[Whiskey11]

Ditto.

Was just ready to order the Fay2 watts link.

Kelly, when will these be ready for sale?

Looks like the best of both worlds, 1/2 bushings are poly and 1/2 heim?

Beautiful looking product for sure.

Options, you have them... pure rod end or half and half! From my experience, the pure rod end option is not a huge NVH increase at all and it will be LESS of an issue with the BMR design because the way the rod ends are clocked in the same plane as their motion whereas the Fays2 the one arm is clocked so the arms can make clicking noises against the metal washers.

 

[nelsonbullitt]

Any idea how much lower than the pig their watts link will extend?

 

[nelsonbullitt]

Also, where is the anti-sway bar in the photos?

 

[NickD87]

Also, where is the anti-sway bar in the photos?

Did you look at the pictures?
It looks to hand about 2 inches lower
the sway bar will be located behind that and will be the furthest thing back on the car, this will not get in the way any different then the 4 other watts links that look like this.

If you noticed the car has no drive line no exhaust...

 

[Ingwe]

Looking forward to seeing how this works with Whiskey's torque arm. Was thinking about the Cortex route but would rather go with BMR to match my other suspension parts.

 

[Whiskey11]

Looking forward to seeing how this works with Whiskey's torque arm. Was thinking about the Cortex route but would rather go with BMR to match my other suspension parts.

Probably about the same as the Fays2. I'll be honest, I don't expect a huge performance gain between the Fays2 currently on the car and the BMR unit unless the RC adjustment range is larger in both directions. What I do expect is a little more control over the rod end life span since they are better shielded than the Fays2, possibly a little less NVH and overall better quality (not that the Fays2 isn't capable), and much better post sales support.

Kelly knows this so it wont be a shock if my report on their watts focuses more on the construction differences between the two than the outright performance differences.

 

[nelsonbullitt]

Probably about the same as the Fays2. I'll be honest, I don't expect a huge performance gain between the Fays2 currently on the car and the BMR unit unless the RC adjustment range is larger in both directions. What I do expect is a little more control over the rod end life span since they are better shielded than the Fays2, possibly a little less NVH and overall better quality (not that the Fays2 isn't capable), and much better post sales support.

Kelly knows this so it wont be a shock if my report on their watts focuses more on the construction differences between the two than the outright performance differences.

Whiskey,
I was, and may still go with the Fays2 as I am concerned about how low the BMR hangs under the differential. Mine is a sporty street car that I hope to track a bit. The build quality of the BMR looks real good and (for me) the idea of poly bushings on at least one end of the rods is a plus to keep NVH at a minumum.

 

[NickD87]

Whiskey,
I was, and may still go with the Fays2 as I am concerned about how low the BMR hangs under the differential. Mine is a sporty street car that I hope to track a bit. The build quality of the BMR looks real good and (for me) the idea of poly bushings on at least one end of the rods is a plus to keep NVH at a minumum.

Unless your going off road there should never be anything hitting your diff, my relocation brackets are about 1.5" off the ground but they have never hit a thing, it's a solid axle so anything the tires go over the axle raises as well.

 

[Whiskey11]

Unless your going off road there should never be anything hitting your diff, my relocation brackets are about 1.5" off the ground but they have never hit a thing, it's a solid axle so anything the tires go over the axle raises as well.

A little bit of a difference between the relocation bracket position and the center of the car with regards to ground clearance. Think high center...

At any rate, we'll find out soon enough just how "low" it is. I doubt it will be an issue though. The Fays2 sits pretty low when the car itself is lowered pretty heavily and I can't think of a time I've bottomed it out.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Unless your going off road there should never be anything hitting your diff, my relocation brackets are about 1.5" off the ground but they have never hit a thing, it's a solid axle so anything the tires go over the axle raises as well.

Heh . . . sometimes, poo - aka "going agricultural" - really does happen.

Norm

 

[Boaisy]

those cars are going the wrong way!

 

[BMR Tech]

I am doing some testing with fitment right now, with various components.

As for how low it sits, it is about 6.5" down from the forward most side of the tire well, when measuring from underneath. There is a pad with a star pattern, five small circles. It sits about 6.5" down from that.

This photo shows a bunch of WL parts, but it is the best I could find via my friend Google, to show what I am referring to. You will also see that the sway bar in this picture, sits similarly in height/position as what our Watts does.



It is low. But, it is how we needed it to be, for support on the lowest RC position. Most importantly, the main brace protects the propeller. I'd much rather something hit the military duty main bar, than the propeller.

These Watts links are available is a pre-order right now, only through us directly. If you want to hop on, simply give me a call.

 

[nelsonbullitt]

I am doing some testing with fitment right now, with various components.

As for how low it sits, it is about 6.5" down from the forward most side of the tire well, when measuring from underneath. There is a pad with a star pattern, five small circles. It sits about 6.5" down from that.

This photo shows a bunch of WL parts, but it is the best I could find via my friend Google, to show what I am referring to. You will also see that the sway bar in this picture, sits similarly in height/position as what our Watts does.



It is low. But, it is how we needed it to be, for support on the lowest RC position. Most importantly, the main brace protects the propeller. I'd much rather something hit the military duty main bar, than the propeller.

These Watts links are available is a pre-order right now, only through us directly. If you want to hop on, simply give me a call.

Thanks, Kelly.

Any idea how much lower than the bottom of the differential? The angle is difficult to figure from the angle. My car is in storage and I don't have access to go measure.

If you can go to your installed prototype and measure, it would be a big help.

I've got relocation brackets, but they are close to the tires, so I am not concerned there.

If a flat vertical surface, and too low, it may be a serious problem if I hit an animal, large rock, one tire hits a pothole and drops in, etc.

My car is not primarily a track car. But, I am very interested if I can get by the clearance issue.

 

[BMR Tech]

I gave the best measurement.

Measuring from the ground, or in relation to the diff, not an accurate measurement for me to share, because it won't be the same from car to car.

 

[nelsonbullitt]

I gave the best measurement.

Measuring from the ground, or in relation to the diff, not an accurate measurement for me to share, because it won't be the same from car to car.

But, Kelly, you have the same problem with using the spare tire well. It, too, will be up or down if the car is lowered.

Can you just measure stating the car being stock, lowered 1 inch, etc. Or, if the test vehicle is lowered, just give the drop and the specs on whether lowered or not and how much.

I am interested in pre-ordering as long as I know what I'm buying.