East Coast NA stock block shootout?

[Boss281]

There is no need to worry about insurance since there is no sanctioning body involved. I founded the SSOTN Nats series back in the late 90's and we never had any problems. The track has it's own insurance. We are really just putting together a test and tune with some basic classes, nobody is racing for money here. I will speak with the guy running the SSOTN Nats now but I think we could run with them in April at Cecil.

Who runs SSOTN now? The guy's handle is "Wimpdog" I think, but don't know his real name.

John

 

[qwikhuh]

Who runs SSOTN now? The guy's handle is "Wimpdog" I think, but don't know his real name.

John

Wimp is John Paulson. I will give him a call and run the idea by him. I also know the owner of Cecil so if we decided to have the S197Forum Nats down the road that is also a possibility. Wimp has always been the president of SSOTN. They brought me on as staff back in 99 when I was renting Cecil for a group of my friends. We made it an SSOTN even and it grew from there. The first Fall race was in 99 and we had 45 cars. Now we have to cut it off at 180.

Many other racing groups have tried to organize midwest shootout and they always fail. No offense to those out west but it seems like the majority of racers always seem to be East of the mississippi. If you make the race at KC then everyone has to travel long distances and that kills overall attendance.

 

[Rygen]

Count me in if its East Coast. Also, I'm happy to offer a hand with any planning. The club I own does two track events a year, and I've rented MIR twice.

 

[Boss281]

So far there hasn't been any movement on decisions. Our small group of 4--Kim ('kimmer'), Marc ('marcspaz'), Scott ('2k05gt') and myself--are collecting information and ideas at this point, and it just got serious a few days back. We expect and want your feedback, because this is an idea that was borne out of S197forums participation and enthusiasm.

Before posting up the thread, I got the sense early that just an n/a set of runs might be interesting to some local folks (I can easily get 20-25 local n/a folks together and break even for a Friday 8 hour track rental). Or get half that to show up at someone else's rental and have a mini-competion between ourselves. Piece of cake.

Over the last year, it's clear from this forum's participants that racing is taken very seriously and folks really push the limits--I don't see this anywhere else on the Mustang internet community. We have 3 n/a s197 (JPC, Ron Leonard, and the 11.75 guy over on corralnet) folks that have broken 11s with weight reduction, the stock block and heads, and if I'm not mistaken, stock cams. There are a handfull of folks on this forum, and a couple of documented claims I've seen elsewhere, where the stock engine and cams but mostly stock interiors--cars you drive on the street easily and onto the track for fun--that are 12.0 to 12.3. I'm the slow one at 12.40. Heck, guys are taking cars off the lot, putting on LCAs and drag radials, and apparently doing very low-to mid 13s.

Then you got the aftermarket heads and cams guys, and built mod-motor guys, and suddenly a number of classes start emerging that might be of interest for a real race event in the S197 Mustang enthusiest community. Start adding the power adder crowd, and the list of possible participants starts growing big time, and also to the Mustang press. Obviously, expanding beyond an n/a shootout adds complexity, but may be a key to larger scale success--that's something that needs to be define shortly.

I live in Maryland, and am blessed with two outstanding tracks within 2 hrs drive, and two so-so tracks within an hour's drive. Put an drag rental event together, and we get folks from North and South Carolina, New York and PA, WV, Virginia, Ohio and Kentucky, easy. Make it something covered by sponsors and automotive press, and I'll bet we get a good mix of "east of Mississippi" crowd. I admit it's a matter of convenience with my home and racing venues.

Long winded, but my point is this is just something some of us here in Maryland started thinking about, posted it up, got some interest, and thought we'd make it happen. Like you say, if it picks up, maybe we consider two events next year--east coast and west coast. Again, there was no attempt to be exclusionary, just convenience by personal locale.

A couple of us are doing research over the next few weeks and then meeting the New Year's weekend. Hopefully we'll have preliminaries on decisions, some sponsor interest, track considerations, press committments and other issues getting addressed. This is real because it's quite doable, there are good tracks in the area, we're well represented by performance shops that tune these cars, and the automotive press already seems to be interested.

Just let any of us know what you are thinking, pro and con, and we'll address it if we can.

John

 

[marcspaz]

Well said John. Thanks!

 

[GERMANSHEPERD]

any ideas on a date?

 

[KIMMER]

Well, I run a whipple with a spydershaft and 20" wheels at the track........I might have the heaviest car..lol. I think last time I was 3940 with a 1/8th tank of gas and ran a 11.87. Normally i'm low 12's/11.99. I'll basically be running for fun, but that's what i'll be there for.

 

[94tbird]

why dont you pick one person from each area East, Mid, West to set one up individually for their areas. It doesn't have to be the same day or week or month. Ill be honest right now if it isnt readily available to me on the east coast, I cant do it. I don't have the time to drive 12+ hours for a track day.

Maryland, Texas, and Cali for instance. Each group can be responsible for their own event. The only constant are the rules/classes

 

[94tbird]

Well, I run a whipple with a spydershaft and 20" wheels at the track........I might have the heaviest car..lol. I think last time I was 3940 with a 1/8th tank of gas and ran a 11.87. Normally i'm low 12's/11.99. I'll basically be running for fun, but that's what i'll be there for.

I got you beat Kimmer

4052 with me and a 1/8 tank

 

[Boss281]

any ideas on a date?

Nope, still early planning. My guess is the cooler months (March/April or October/November).

 

[chad05gt]

This looks great!!!

NICE... please keep me posted if this keeps gellin'!

Could there possibly be a weight limit to Class A and B; like 3500lbs plus to keep stripped cars separate??

Just a thought



Location??? Carolina's or is it looking more NE??


Make this a sticky thing a ma jig!!!

 

[2k05gt]

NICE... please keep me posted if this keeps gellin'!

Could there possibly be a weight limit to Class A and B; like 3500lbs plus to keep stripped cars separate??

Just a thought


Location??? Carolina's or is it looking more NE??


Make this a sticky thing a ma jig!!!

Thanks for the Ideas, I will add the Class and weight Limits to the List of things to talk about in our Committee Meeting.

Right now the track location is being looked into. Availability, price and location are all important, I have talked to other people that setup these events and they found that the Mid-atlantic is blessed with some nice tracks at really great prices for fully staffed and preped.

 

[chad05gt]

Carolina's about as far as I can go...

Lets not wait too long, 1.82 for 93 octane Chevron makes road trips REAL easy! LOL

Just speaking for myself, Carolina's about as far as I can go... Thats a long trip from SW Lo-ez-ana.... especially to go break stuff!

 

[2k05gt]

Lets not wait too long, 1.82 for 93 octane Chevron makes road trips REAL easy! LOL

Just speaking for myself, Carolina's about as far as I can go... Thats a long trip from SW Lo-ez-ana.... especially to go break stuff!

I hear ya, I just paid 1.75 for 93 is was so nice...

Come on MIR is only 4 hours from The "Rock" Rockingham, NC.
Richmond is 2.5 hours. were going to take all thrack recomendations and pick the best one, we will have some more info in a few weeks when we have our meeting.

I have driven a long way to go to events, I even won a trophy on the "Longest Distance traveled" LOL ... It's all about having fun and hangin with some cool people

 

[landis]

I just found this thread and thought it was interesting. I'm currently sationed at Ft. Knox, KY so hopefully you will pick somewhere close to me. I would like to attend if I can get away from the Army for few days. Have you guys thought about Bowling Green?

 

[94tbird]

bowling is way too far for me

 

[marcspaz]

Same here. I need to stay within 450/500 miles. That is unless someone has a 4 passanger truck and auto-transport trailer they can give me.

 

[chad05gt]

Lake Charles to Woodbridge Va about 1250mi.....

Do you have ANY idea how many tickets South Lo - ez - ana folk can rack up in that time; errr.... distance??? ...and outta state, we cant get nothing fixed ... Edwards SO gotta get pardoned...

... hey, I'm gonna see about taking a loan out aginst my Social Security that I'll never get... hmmmm


...roadtrip back on

btw, just had shoulder surgery... its the meds talkin'....

 

[2k05gt]

Some of the Best Tracks I have run on the east coast (I have ran tracks from Florida - New Jersey) are the ones Listed below

MIR (Budds Creek)
27861 Budds Creek Rd, Mechanicsville, MD 20659

Rockingham (The Rock)
Old US Highway 74, Rockingham, NC 28379

Virginia Motorsports Park (VMP)
8018 Boydton Plank Road,

 

[qwikhuh]

I would still go with Cecil or MIR. Both are fast, both are centrally located for the majority of people interested in the shooout. It should really come down to who is seriously going to attend. If you have 20 racers in PA, MD, VA and 2 in the carolinas going all the way to the Rock doesn't make much sense.