Plugs question on turbo S197

Vashthe3rd

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Yea, like I said, I know very little when it comes to ignition and trusted this shop (which my friends have been to, worked at, or have friends I've met at) I did some searching once I had the chance AFTER we swapped the plugs and found that same description.

I went in and asked for HT0's and made it clear that I wanted plugs one heat range colder than stock, he said OK he'd have them there in ~30 minutes, I also asked him about gapping (which I should've then realized this moron didn't know sh^t when he told me I should gap them to .030. You cannot gap the HT's is what I've found out) I went to pick them up, he handed me a box of HT1's. and not having the internet on hand and trusting this fellow from what was once a reputable shop in my mind, I took them after clarification that they were indeed one heat range colder.

I get the feeling this jackass didn't believe me when I said I needed colder plugs for my turbo car. Although I'm not sure how he could've believed otherwise, he HEARD my car spooling as I drove back down the street. But either way me and my buddy spent some time on this being delicate with the plugs I had. (I also now realize the previous shop swapped HT0's in for me without telling me. They are fouled beyond belief now.)

I'm absolutely livid right now that someone would do this. Especially after I palled around with the guy at the shop taking a look at what all was new, etc. and praising the quality of what I saw. I'm going back there tomorrow when they open and demanding replacements and that they swap the plugs and make up for the gas I've wasted on getting to their shitty business. Whether or not I'll get any of that is yet to be determined, but I have records of what they sold me, and I told him one step colder. If someone's going to believe I asked for one step hotter, or replacement N/A plugs when I very specifically told him "It has a turbo" when he asked "why do you need these COLDER plugs?" then they can say the same thing when questioned about fraud.
 

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Here's the plugs from today
The HT1 is one from the new set, not to confuse anyone with the fact that there are 7 fouled and one brand new plug sitting in the same picture lol.
 

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HTs can and must be gaped down on a F/I set up. There is a special gap tool for the work, BBR is selling them at a sale price now.
 

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Ive run HTO's and Brisk , Ive run the Brisk 2 step colder for High Boost . Although they work fine for high boost they do not last long and they foul up after a week . Ive tried them twice and both times they last only for a week or so and start to miss from being fouled up.
Ive run my HTO's gaped down to .026 up to 24 psi's with NO ISSUES's , Ive even sprayed the car with a 75 shot and 22 psi's no problem .
Yesterday at the shop we had a rep come in with some accel 3v cop and wanted for us to try them out with there new plugs. The plugs look like the Brisk . I told him Ive tried the MSD 3v COP went around the block , and when I got back home I took them out and gave them to a friend of mine to get rid of them they miss at low speeds under load.
He wants for Me to try there's out see if I like them . Has anyone used the Accel 3V COP before ?
As far as the plugs go I would be very surprised if the new plug works better then the HTO's but Ill give it a shot next week on the Dyno.


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i have a set that a friend gave me when he sold his car but i have never installed them. i am going to sell them unless they turn up to be good. i dont want hardly any thing for them seance i got them for free. if some one is interested, not to hijack your thread.
 

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Guess I'm paying the price for not doing my research with this hassle I have to go through now.
 

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Got it taken care of
mis-understanding, their database (saw the exact info page he looked at) did in fact say HT1's were 1 step and HT0's were 2 steps colder.
Getting a set of HT0's properly gapped and put in tomorrow and giving the HT1's back. Alls well that ends well!
 

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