Ticking Sound

[Colton]

Hi all, I’ve got a tick in my 2005 GT. Is this for sure lifter/follower tick? Speeds up with rpm. If so, what are the next steps?

https://youtube.com/shorts/wRh5YGsLW2U?feature=share

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

There's definitely a ticking noise over and above the normal injector clicking. How many miles are there on the engine? Any fault codes?
My first impression is that the driver's side cam phaser is the source of the noise but you really need to use a length of rubber hose as a stethoscope to localize it.
These engines do tend to develop rocker arm (cam follower) wear at higher mileages, and it's wise to replace the cam followers/lash adjusters at the same time if you're doing a timing job.
Let us know what you find.

 

[Andrey Sidorov]

Hi all, I’ve got a tick in my 2005 GT. Is this for sure lifter/follower tick? Speeds up with rpm. If so, what are the next steps?

https://youtube.com/shorts/wRh5YGsLW2U?feature=share

If the noise is there both cold and hot engine and also increases with rpm - most likely Roller Follower in one of the heads depending where sound is coming from, if when engine is cold only and doesnt increase with rpm - cam phaser. One way or another have to drop valve covers and check for followers, and if there might as well do upgraded followers and camphasers, if car has 100K plus miles check for chain stretch, those plastic tensioners love to leak and cause oil starvation in the head - then timing job as well. Sorry it sounds scary, but its completely doable, went through it

 

[Colton]

There's definitely a ticking noise over and above the normal injector clicking. How many miles are there on the engine? Any fault codes?
My first impression is that the driver's side cam phaser is the source of the noise but you really need to use a length of rubber hose as a stethoscope to localize it.
These engines do tend to develop rocker arm (cam follower) wear at higher mileages, and it's wise to replace the cam followers/lash adjusters at the same time if you're doing a timing job.
Let us know what you find.

Got 115,000, not throwing any codes. Have been doing my research the last couple days on replacing the followers and it’s just gonna come down to whether I’ve got the guts to do that or not. Thank you for the help, I really appreciate it!

 

[Colton]

If the noise is there both cold and hot engine and also increases with rpm - most likely Roller Follower in one of the heads depending where sound is coming from, if when engine is cold only and doesnt increase with rpm - cam phaser. One way or another have to drop valve covers and check for followers, and if there might as well do upgraded followers and camphasers, if car has 100K plus miles check for chain stretch, those plastic tensioners love to leak and cause oil starvation in the head - then timing job as well. Sorry it sounds scary, but its completely doable, went through it

Definitely does sound a little scary, hopefully YouTube will make it easier. Thank you for the help!

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

Definitely does sound a little scary, hopefully YouTube will make it easier. Thank you for the help!

Search for FordTechMakuloco in YouTube. His videos are excellent and you'll find them very helpful. They describe the problem and the solution on the 5.4 3V but the procedure is exactly the same on the 4.6 3V anyway.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnkaHoqfNwiGBwn5lPs6h7teRFqY9NxQD

 

[Colton]

Search for FordTechMakuloco in YouTube. His videos are excellent and you'll find them very helpful. They describe the problem and the solution on the 5.4 3V but the procedure is exactly the same on the 4.6 3V anyway.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnkaHoqfNwiGBwn5lPs6h7teRFqY9NxQD

That’s actually the video that I watched. Makes it look a little less intimidating. Thanks again!

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

It's not bad, take your time and don't get frustrated. Use rags to block off oil passages. Personally I'd do it all while in there. I don't like doing stuff multiple times when it could have all been addressed at one time.

 

[JC SSP]

A video and step-by-step instructions would be great.

I have close to 120K on my 05’ and know the day to do this is near…

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

Microsoft Word - 133669 M-6550-3V Inst Sheet 12.17.15 (ford.com)

This is to swap cams but you can use it as a guide for what you need.

 

[JC SSP]

This should definitely be in our forum library! THX buddy owe you a cold one.

 

[Andrey Sidorov]

That guys youtube is amazing and he has plenty of videos of that job done, that said - at 115-120k miles, on our 4.6 3v its about time to do the timing job due to stupid design of plastic tensioners with rubber gasket that starts leaking and oil doesnt go all the way into the head add melling high volume oil pump, get the ford performance timing kit with oem ford performance phasers- do not and i repeat do NOT buy aftermarket phasers, some boundary billet gears are optional

 

[ColtFrtyFve]

I am having the same exact issue with the metallic ticking/tapping (increases with rev) coming from driver side top of head in vicinity of last set of valves. 108,000 miles. only put 4k miles in last 5 years.

since discovering the sound, I have replaced springs/rocker arms/lash adjusters and Changed oil. didnt see any metal. shavings. Some visible wear on contact surface of cam towers.

previously installed273/306 Mutha Thumpr Cams tuned with SCT X4, Pypes long tube headers, cold air intake, borla exhaust. all upgrades less than 4k miles.

Sound unchanged after changing out comp cam springs/rockers/lashers.

Cams less than 1000 miles. A shop installed and tuned. not sure when the tapping started but definitely sounds almost like its tapping the valve cover. tapping started some point after cam install and tune.

Please, any help would be amazing!

 

[ThomasH]

I believe I have the same problem did you ever figure out what it was or anything it could be I’ve just recently replaced the lash adjusters and rocker arms as well the cams all ford performance