Installing a paxton novi 2200.

[Misfit_5.0]

I ran it because at the time I felt all of the kinks hadn't been ironed out with KB's, the Roush and Whipple seemed to be underperforming and the huge price difference. All if that and people were having great success on stock motors. I love the car. I'm just used to it so I need to build it to be faster. But to me, nothing beats the sound of a KB. I've been hooked on them since the Terminators.

 

[Kimura]

There is a reason why there is more people running Paxtons and Vortechs than Roush, Whipple, and KB...

The first reason that comes to mind for me is cost. Beefcake sells them for a very fair price. $6-7k for a PD blower isn't cheap. Its hard to say which would be more popular if they costed near the same especially with the popularity that raged for the 03-04 Cobras.

Obviously any blower on our cars will be fun. But that is the dilemma for most owners is the high cost of the PD blowers and if they are worth the extra expense over the very fair priced Paxton setups. The instant torque would be more useful/fun around town versus the Paxton that requires more RPM.

 

[Misfit_5.0]

^ Well said

 

[gizmo5]

I could have bought any system I wanted and picked the Paxton. I even looked at twins, but the Paxton is such a clean and problem free system that it's hard to beat. Belt driven (no turbo issues), great street manners, and tons of potential as long as its supported.

It was a no brainer for me.

 

[whtcanbrwnd04u]

There is a debate going on about that exact topic over on svtp. I'm actually really considering trading my paxton for that TVS in the classifieds. I think i may do it. My car is a street car, and i think the TVS would be more fun. Downside would be that i am going to have to run DRs all the time and get myself a daily.

Best way to describe it would be that you don't have to rev up to 7k with the TVS to know the car is supercharged.

 

[stretch]

If I had to start all over, and build a whole new car from scratch, I'd still get a 2200. Just my opinion though.

Sent from your moms room...

that's what im doing..lol

 

[Mystickeith50]

I'm not gonna debate the 2.3 tvs or 2.3 Whipple vs the 2200. Obviously the 2200 is a much more capable blower. IMO when u talk about stock bottom end limits, and street fun, u just can't beat a PD blower....IMO. My buddy has a boss with a Paxton and I pull on it constantly until about 135-140 with my Whipple and associated mods. I have also driven his car and while it is impressive, I feel u have to beat the shit out of the car to really go fast. I chose the PD not by any means cause it was superior, but because I wanted a nice street car. The only downside is u MUST have drag radials. Before I put drag radials on my car I could spin my new falkens at 60-70 mph on the highway. The torque is there like right fucking now.

 

[gizmo5]

It all depends on what you want. I like my cars street manners and ability get on it and not go sideways at the drop of a hat, but I also like that anything past 4K is full tilt fuck you kill mode lol. They each have their own manners, but time and time again the 2200 has proven to be a track beast as well. Damn autos and a Paxton, you can get 9s with not much else.

 

[Wnt2gofst]

10.3 with x pipe, boss intake, paxton on 10lbs and stall. On 93 octane in 80* weather. Ran a kb and whippled 5.0 at same track. Tbey both had lt's and was over .5 slower.

from my S4 in your sisters bed

 

[Greg Hazlett]

that's what im doing..lol

Removing the TT's?

 

[whtcanbrwnd04u]

I'm not gonna debate the 2.3 tvs or 2.3 Whipple vs the 2200. Obviously the 2200 is a much more capable blower. IMO when u talk about stock bottom end limits, and street fun, u just can't beat a PD blower....IMO. My buddy has a boss with a Paxton and I pull on it constantly until about 135-140 with my Whipple and associated mods. I have also driven his car and while it is impressive, I feel u have to beat the shit out of the car to really go fast. I chose the PD not by any means cause it was superior, but because I wanted a nice street car. The only downside is u MUST have drag radials. Before I put drag radials on my car I could spin my new falkens at 60-70 mph on the highway. The torque is there like right fucking now.

Were those 315s you have for sale not cutting it? What DR and size do you run? Sorry for all the questions, but what is your set-up? Injectors, who tuned it, numbers?

 

[Kimura]

I'm not gonna debate the 2.3 tvs or 2.3 Whipple vs the 2200. Obviously the 2200 is a much more capable blower. IMO when u talk about stock bottom end limits, and street fun, u just can't beat a PD blower....IMO. My buddy has a boss with a Paxton and I pull on it constantly until about 135-140 with my Whipple and associated mods. I have also driven his car and while it is impressive, I feel u have to beat the shit out of the car to really go fast. I chose the PD not by any means cause it was superior, but because I wanted a nice street car. The only downside is u MUST have drag radials. Before I put drag radials on my car I could spin my new falkens at 60-70 mph on the highway. The torque is there like right fucking now.

I think that is what a lot of people are worried about, having to really beat the snot out of a Paxton car on the street to get it moving with the Coyote's big RPM powerband.

It all depends on what you want. I like my cars street manners and ability get on it and not go sideways at the drop of a hat, but I also like that anything past 4K is full tilt fuck you kill mode lol. They each have their own manners, but time and time again the 2200 has proven to be a track beast as well. Damn autos and a Paxton, you can get 9s with not much else.

Absolutely, the Paxton is a proven winner for the guys who have an auto and frequent the track often. But what about the 6M guys with 90% street duty cars? I'm not a track rat any more and more concerned with street performance.

 

[Mystickeith50]

Were those 315s you have for sale not cutting it? What DR and size do you run? Sorry for all the questions, but what is your set-up? Injectors, who tuned it, numbers?

Those 315s for sale are not the drag radials. I have the nt05r drag radials on now in 315s n they're great. I have a 2.3 with a 3.25 pulley seeing 9lbs, long tubes, off road x, id1000s, twin 65 tb, bap, jlt cold air intake, tuned by JPC and fullssuspension, dual pass heat exchanger, it made 632hp at the tire...torque was like 545 or something.

 

[beefcake]

I think that is what a lot of people are worried about, having to really beat the snot out of a Paxton car on the street to get it moving with the Coyote's big RPM powerband.



Absolutely, the Paxton is a proven winner for the guys who have an auto and frequent the track often. But what about the 6M guys with 90% street duty cars? I'm not a track rat any more and more concerned with street performance.

what is beating a car, putting it in boost?

I never understand this argument.

Take a bone stock auto car, if you mash the pedal it's going to downshift to the upper rpm band

that's what cars do, why would it be any difference with a s/c, centri's excel at higher rpms. Your cars natural nature once shifting, is to go to higher rpms'

who gives a crap what your car does from 1500-3000 rpms, if your racing the car, you'll see 1500-3000 rpms, for maybe .0002 seconds..

now, if your buying a s/c because you want to be able to row through the gears from 1000-2500 as a daily driver, you probably will enjoy a pd more.

I just don't understand the point of it

 

[Mystickeith50]

what is beating a car, putting it in boost?

I never understand this argument.

Take a bone stock auto car, if you mash the pedal it's going to downshift to the upper rpm band

that's what cars do, why would it be any difference with a s/c, centri's excel at higher rpms. Your cars natural nature once shifting, is to go to higher rpms'

who gives a crap what your car does from 1500-3000 rpms, if your racing the car, you'll see 1500-3000 rpms, for maybe .0002 seconds..

now, if your buying a s/c because you want to be able to row through the gears from 1000-2500 as a daily driver, you probably will enjoy a pd more.

I just don't understand the point of it

Well that's the argument here terry...casually driving it on the street. Not to mention many cars are proven on the track with the PD blowers as well.

 

[gizmo5]

I have a manual, and it's super fun to just drop a gear and bam, boooooost lol. I don't get the PD argument either. In my opinion, a manual is all you need to enjoy a car on the street, as for not making TQ right away with a centri, well that means you're silly and not driving your car in its power range. It's belt driven, not a laggy turbo that needs to spool lol.

On the highway, I can instantly be in my 100% TQ rpm in less than a second, so I fail to see how a PD blower "jumps" out on a centri unless the driver isn't driving in the right gear...

 

[cyclerick]

I have 6M with Paxton stock pulley, JLT and LT headers, 3:73 with 315s on rear and love my centrifical. I just purchased MT street radials for around town so that it hooks better as right now 1&2 are useless. Can't imagine what the torque of a PD would do.

 

[onebadgsx]

Side but related question for you Paxton owners- Has anyone raced a Roush TVS car with their Paxton car?

There is a pretty good debate among Roush/Paxton owners which supercharger is better for a street car, particularly the 6M cars. Obviously you can go fast with both at the track. The auto Paxton cars really seem to fly, but I'm more interested in street behaviors and 1st hand experience from actual owners.

The focus of a lot of the debate comes from the RPM/torque differences. With the TVS having instant torque at near idle, versus the Paxton lacking in the torque department.

my buddy has one, i KILL it all the time. not even a race, both tuned by lund. its a rs3 car

 

[Kenaizer]

my buddy has one, i KILL it all the time. not even a race, both tuned by lund. its a rs3 car

Truth.

 

[whtcanbrwnd04u]

Any of you houston guys willing to let me use your garage on the 27th to install a VMP kit? Got a guy coming down from Louisiana and we need a safe spot to install it...


I'll buy you food & beer