1950StangJump$
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So, I'm about to dump some money into my 2008 3V. I have literally exchanged dozens and emails and phone calls with vendors, and I have spent tons of hours online.
No doubt a Coyote has more NA power than the 3V. But, if you already own a 3V, the question is whether the power-to-money spent ratio is worth the swap - or whether you should build up the 3V. While the stock 3V can be boosted to 450RWHP safely, it can be built (or you can buy a built 3V) that will safely handle 1000HP. For argument's sake, lets call that 850RWHP, though I suspect you can go higher.
Here's the thing. A Gen1 Coyote is limited to about 550-600RWHP on stock internals, and swapping in a new or almost new Gen1 will be as much money as building the 3V.
The Gen2 can do 800-850RWHP on stock internals (you will just want to change the oil pump gears). So, on it's face, the Gen2 swap seems to be equivalent to a 3V built motor. While the Gen2 is about equivalent in HP capacity, and you can also argue that it's easier to get to that capacity with the power adders than with the 3V. The catch? If you call Power by the Hour, you learn that the harnesses and kits to Coyote swap into an 05-09 Mustang will only work with the Gen1. So, you're into it for big money for the engine swap and the blower, only to find out you're limited to 550RWHP. You can put the Gen2 in, but there is no harness to make your gauges, AC, etc work correctly. If you use the Gen1 harness on a Gen2 motor, you have drivability/tuning issues.
There verdict? Certainly, the Coyote is the better platform to start . . . especially the Gen2 . . . if you don't care whether you have an S197 or a S550. But, if you like the 05-09 Mustang body style, and you want big power, you're better off upgrading the 3V to something like the Brenspeed B326 3V and throwing lots of boost at it. You're not limited in HP like the Gen1 Coyote, and you keep all your gauge/AC functionality (unlike the Gen2). The only other option would be to change over the timing parts in a Gen2 to make it function like a Gen1 with its electrical harness. But, you are now getting up there in cost well beyond the Brenspeed B326.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the B326 now. The flat billed kids on Facebook, who swear by the Coyote and blast the 3V, wont know how to handle this.
No doubt a Coyote has more NA power than the 3V. But, if you already own a 3V, the question is whether the power-to-money spent ratio is worth the swap - or whether you should build up the 3V. While the stock 3V can be boosted to 450RWHP safely, it can be built (or you can buy a built 3V) that will safely handle 1000HP. For argument's sake, lets call that 850RWHP, though I suspect you can go higher.
Here's the thing. A Gen1 Coyote is limited to about 550-600RWHP on stock internals, and swapping in a new or almost new Gen1 will be as much money as building the 3V.
The Gen2 can do 800-850RWHP on stock internals (you will just want to change the oil pump gears). So, on it's face, the Gen2 swap seems to be equivalent to a 3V built motor. While the Gen2 is about equivalent in HP capacity, and you can also argue that it's easier to get to that capacity with the power adders than with the 3V. The catch? If you call Power by the Hour, you learn that the harnesses and kits to Coyote swap into an 05-09 Mustang will only work with the Gen1. So, you're into it for big money for the engine swap and the blower, only to find out you're limited to 550RWHP. You can put the Gen2 in, but there is no harness to make your gauges, AC, etc work correctly. If you use the Gen1 harness on a Gen2 motor, you have drivability/tuning issues.
There verdict? Certainly, the Coyote is the better platform to start . . . especially the Gen2 . . . if you don't care whether you have an S197 or a S550. But, if you like the 05-09 Mustang body style, and you want big power, you're better off upgrading the 3V to something like the Brenspeed B326 3V and throwing lots of boost at it. You're not limited in HP like the Gen1 Coyote, and you keep all your gauge/AC functionality (unlike the Gen2). The only other option would be to change over the timing parts in a Gen2 to make it function like a Gen1 with its electrical harness. But, you are now getting up there in cost well beyond the Brenspeed B326.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the B326 now. The flat billed kids on Facebook, who swear by the Coyote and blast the 3V, wont know how to handle this.