C and L upper intake car makes 440 N/A

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Our C and L upper intake car makes 440 N/A

Thats right. You read it correctly. This car once belonged to a customer, that we helped buld during the whole Journey. Rather than me rant about it. Ive attached the just released article!!!
 

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WOW! So its a 302 with p&p heads, I didnt see any mention of cams or compression ratio, did i just miss it? I may be considering this intake now since thats basically the same engine im building next winter.

How much are those anyways? I dont it listed on your site.
 
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Thats what you get for looking at too many yellow cars as of late...


Nice numbers; would like to know compression, cams specs..
 

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Thats what you get for looking at too many yellow cars as of late...


Nice numbers; would like to know compression, cams specs..

I looooove my yellow cars

I will post a spec sheet on the car from top to bottom in a little guys. This car is amazing. I believe it is officially the highest N/A 3v headed s197 now!!!
 
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WOW! So its a 302 with p&p heads, I didnt see any mention of cams or compression ratio, did i just miss it? I may be considering this intake now since thats basically the same engine im building next winter.

How much are those anyways? I dont it listed on your site.

I bought mine directly from C and L. it was 799. When I talked to Lee at C and L he estimated my car would be in the 400-450 range N/A with my mods minus the Procharger. (302, livernois stage II heads, comp cam VSR Stage II cam, FRRP 62mm TB and intake)
 
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i see u also went back to a supercharger and ditched the turbo???did u not make the power u wanted??


great numbers, but my car didnt gain anything on the dyno with the c&l. Just lost alot of mid range and tq

:headscratch:
 

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I was absolutley wrong about that! This isnt my motor, i thought it was a different car! The car was white and had a C&L plenum who bought my old 298 motor
 
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Well if that car was really making 440 to the wheels N/A, theres no way in hell it was yellow!!11!

Anyways, I wonder if the gains have alot to do with the heads and cam combo. I might be wrong but id think the heads would affect it even in a FI setup. /discuss?

From the article: "The better the heads flow and the higher the engine operating rpm the greater the potential gains are with the new manifold design"
 
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Interesting how one guy makes 400+ rwhp on a N/A set-up with it and others are losing power.. :oh:


It's also interesting how that car gained power starting at around 5200 RPM while the gains on a bolt on car are only above 6k RPM's.
 

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Well if that car was really making 440 to the wheels N/A, theres no way in hell it was yellow!!11!

Anyways, I wonder if the gains have alot to do with the heads and cam combo. I might be wrong but id think the heads would affect it even in a FI setup. /discuss?

LOL It should be Yellow Dammit...

We picked up the 38 rwhp after the c and l. It originally had a stock intake
 

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LOL im just messin with ya about the yellow. Has it been to the track yet with the C&L on it?
edit: And i dont really know what i was thinking about, of coarse it will make more power with P&P heads and bigger cams....been a long day.:chainsaw:
 
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It is a s197 only magazine published by muscle mustangs and fast fords. They only make it 2 times a year
 

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