2013 GT500 cast aluminum oil pan 8.5 quart

[BadPiggy]

That I cannot answer. I'm building a fresh motor.
Never removed a bolt from the oil pan on this car.

Perhaps BruceH or skwerl could answer that.

Sorry, should have explained myself better, I meant to ask if they were longer than the stock ones (as I think is thicker than the cast one)

 

[sportinawoody]

Need to drill/thread 4 more holes.

Kidding aside, they are longer, right?

ill look when i get home

 

[crownaviation]

I am no structural engineer and I would be happy with this idea for the majority of builds out there... but, I am wondering if the stock metal windage tray offered any structural integrity to the block. This is my thought for north of 800rwhp applications where severe flex is a concern. I love this idea and am pulling my motor today for a few upgrades but have reservations about using this on my new build

 

[Dubstep Shep]

I am no structural engineer and I would be happy with this idea for the majority of builds out there... but, I am wondering if the stock metal windage tray offered any structural integrity to the block. This is my thought for north of 800rwhp applications where severe flex is a concern.

Considering I can bend it by hand, I doubt it has too much of an effect.

Especially considering how much beefier the big GT500 pan is than the stock pan.

 

[sportinawoody]

also we have 6 bolt mains. i havent seen bearing issues on our engines especially arp'd out.

 

[19COBRA93]

Yeah, the mains aren't moving around any on these motors, so the metal windage tray provides no extra needed strength. If this were a 2 bolt pushrod 302, then I'd say maybe. And even then it would be a weak maybe. It's just a stamped piece with no "strength" built into it (ribs, gussets, etc).

 

[sportinawoody]

only way to tell would be to have an instrument that measures harmonics

 

[Dubstep Shep]

only way to tell would be to have an instrument that measures harmonics

Or if you put a strain gauge on the windage tray. See how much load it's actually getting.

 

[sportinawoody]

Sorry, should have explained myself better, I meant to ask if they were longer than the stock ones (as I think is thicker than the cast one)

bolts are 1/4" longer that come with the Shelby pan

 

[AutoXRacer]

Damn, I wasn't planning on this mod...but the more I read about it, the more I think why the hell not. sigh

Does anything have to be done with the oil pickup tube?
I guess since its the same depth as the OEM pan, there are no tolerance issues (pickup screen to bottom of pan)?

 

[sportinawoody]

pickup tube comes with it, pan, gasket/scraper, and pick up tube 176 from tasca + shipping

 

[AutoXRacer]

Cool thanks!!

Is the pickup tube bolt-on? Or does it require grinding the attachment boss...?

Another question that hasn't been asked... Is that plastic windage tray perform better than the metal one? Seems like everyone is focusing on the oil pan...but what about the design (performance) and placement of the windage tray?

 

[sportinawoody]

should just bolt on but i won't know until later next week when i button up my bottom end. maybe bruceh or sqwerl will know since they're already running this pan

 

[hamish]

I might need some r&d on this as I'd like to increase my capacity.
But my stock windage tray needed to be modified for my 3.8" stroke crank.
I take it you can't use the stock windage tray with this?

 

[19COBRA93]

Another question that hasn't been asked... Is that plastic windage tray perform better than the metal one? Seems like everyone is focusing on the oil pan...but what about the design (performance) and placement of the windage tray?

The way I see it is, it's the latest design from Ford. I don't see them going backwards in performance/function, so I trust Ford uses it because it's better.

 

[19COBRA93]

I might need some r&d on this as I'd like to increase my capacity.
But my stock windage tray needed to be modified for my 3.8" stroke crank.
I take it you can't use the stock windage tray with this?

No, this is a windage tray. So pick one, not both.

 

[BadPiggy]

Gerald,
It's bolted on. Use the spacer and nut already being used.

 

[AutoXRacer]

Gerald,
It's bolted on. Use the spacer and nut already being used.

Has it been measured, checked, and double checked...?

I really don't want to find out that my pickup tube is out of tolerance and on a fast corner pulling 1G my oil pressure drops to 0!!!!



lol

 

[lito]

^ measure yourself, nothing better.

Bruce is using it and IIRC, no mods needed.

 

[W3bb3r04]

You have to trim the windage tray a little where the front studs come up I believe.