2019 Roush Stage 3

Discussion in 'Mustang Chit Chat' started by JJ427R, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. JJ427R

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    The 2019 Roush Stage 3 has now been released, 710hp 610fpt.... starting at only $22,925 above base sticker...…. start saving your pennies....
    https://www.roushperformance.com/vehicles/mustang-2019-stage3.html
    Still cheaper than a Z06....

    Sticker on my 2010 427r was $55,000, cannot believe how much they have gone up in price, but now a stock GT is almost as much as I paid for my Roush in 2010 (around 45K) and has about the same hp without the SC..... amazes me....

    and to think in the late 80's we only paid 35k for our first house.....
     
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  2. eighty6gt

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    Z06 comes with a good transmission.

    I believe this will crowd the GT500 MSRP pretty hard.

    Not a difficult choice. I'm surprised Roush is still around.
     
  3. JJ427R

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    Roush is still around because they provide options not available on the previous GT500 and current GT350's, mainly an automatic transmission, which oddly enough is not available in the new Bullitt either....

    I myself drive with hand controls and need an automatic, that is primarily why I bought a Roush...
    Granted most people who want a performance car want a stick, but many now would prefer those paddle shifters....
     
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  4. eighty6gt

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    Yes, it works until the GT500 has an auto...

    I can't wait to see the car. Too bad it will be 4500 lb!!
     
  5. Gabe

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    $23,000 for a $7,000 supercharger kit, some suspension mods, $2-$3k in wheels/tires, and some appearance mods that not everybody will find tasteful.
     
  6. 702GT

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    It's all good, they'll offer an 8yr note on it. Somebody will think it's a good deal. They already offer 7 yr notes on GT's.
     
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  7. eighty6gt

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    Aren't supercharger kits $9-$10,000 now?
     
  8. JJ427R

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    If Ford still has 0% financing they are also eligible for that....
     
  9. JJ427R

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    Roush 700hp Phase 1 kit for '18-'19 $7,699.00.
     
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  10. JJ427R

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    You also get Extreme Duty Half Shafts and Hood Heat Extractors.... :)
     
  11. 702GT

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    I meant this with as much sarcasm and disgust as possible. I used to say I'd never buy another new car for various reasons. Now, I simply can't afford one. Where's my 70% wage increase? I must've missed the wage growth report for the last 10 years, I could swear the average joe was getting hosed by inflation alone by 3%, and cost of living by 30%. If I could bet on the next financial crisis, I'd double down on the sub-70k/yr individuals with $1,000/mo car payments, thinking 0% interest is somehow a good deal on a $50,000 car, or $85,000 truck. With a $350,000 mortgage at 5%.
     
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  12. JJ427R

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    I was doing the same, I'm with you on the cost of vehicles as I mentioned above, I can't believe how the prices have increased in the last 10 years, way above the inflation rate. I'm tired of the shell games all the manufacturers play with rebates and money back. Prime example, Chevrolet's current ad offering $11,000 of the price of a pickup.....

    The 0% interest thing can work though if you know how to use it. In 2010 when I purchased my Roush it was available. I had sold my 02 stang for my downpayment, financed the rest 0% for 3 years through Ford Motor Credit. Left my money in the bank making money while I used Fords. I also negotiated almost $10K off the sticker price of the car, I figure I saved about 8k in finance charges, plus what I made in interest with my money still working for me.
     
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  13. 702GT

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    Agreed, for the most part. The only reason 0% financing even exists is because the dealer/manufacturer have the product marked up so high they don't need the bread crumbs worth in interest. Granted, if a person is happy to pay the price, no harm-no foul. The problem I have, it encourages that marketing strategy. If you could walk on a Ford lot, not a penny in your pocket, and drive off the same day with a brand new Ford GT and a $350/mo note, would you? And yet, people cry about $60,000+ in student loan debt that is "unaffordable" on their $45,000/yr salary. It's all about perception and selling bad deals. As much as I could afford $350/mo for a car payment, it's a terrible deal and I'd be a fool to sign for it. As long as people keep agreeing to support rising prices, prices will continue to rise. The Mustang is on track to be a $50,000 car in the next few years at this pace of ridiculousness. I still can't get over someone paying $250k+ for 1200 sqft of living space. But people do. My folks are racing to unload their house, valued at $580k (they paid $200k in 2009), I don't blame them.
     
  14. eighty6gt

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    My car was 720 bucks a month. I didn't have many other expenses at the time.

    My house was built in 1912 and cost me 329,000.

    I don't know how people live here. Nobody makes any $!
     
  15. 702GT

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    Would love to see how the cookie cutter community homes the builders are slapping together hold up after 100+ years lol. My grandma has lived in her home for about 35-40 years, it was built in 1929. About the only thing they've replaced is roofing (had some bad tiles 3-4 years ago... after 30+ years), added central HVAC, and a water softener. Paint every 10-12 years.

    My GT was $530/mo for 60. I made $100/wk payments on top of the monthly to pay it off early. Financed for 1.9%. They didn't offer 0% when I bought in '08 (or I didn't qualify, even though I'm always 760-790 credit-wise). $27,800 was my purchase price (GT premium, had everything but shaker 1000 and heated seats), $31,xxx after financing tax/title/doc. For the same trim GT it'd be around $38k-$39k, $43k-$46k after financing/fees. Huge difference over 10 years. I've only gotten about a 15% increase in wage over the same time. A 1998 GT was $20,150, 10 yrs prior to my 2008, 20yrs to the 2018.

    Maybe this is what they mean by "getting old." You assure yourself everything was cheaper, life was more fair, and people weren't as dumb. Damnit man. Somebody buy that '19 Roush, so I can buy it used next year and have an early mid-life crisis.

    :yaoface:
     
  16. JJ427R

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    If I remember correctly my new 02 GT Premium was $23,500, which was my first new mustang.
    Bought my 2010 Roush 427R new just after we had paid off our mortgage!!! :)

    My current house was built in 1961, we bought it in 1995 and paid $85,000 for it. Busting our asses and being smart with money we paid it off in 2009.... Have a brother in law that is a contractor so have had a lot of remodeling done for beer....

    Sticker on my Roush was $55,000, probably $2500-5k more for a Stage 3 at that time depending on options. Think I paid $47k out the door, and $550 to ship it from TN to MN, which at the time was cheaper than I could fly or drive there. I paid $20k down took advantage of the 0 financing for 3 years and my payments were roughly $500 a month.
    I'll never buy another new car, like you I'll let someone else take the hit...
     
  17. Snakethat

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    You guys are right about prices continuing to inflate. I purchased a new 2014 tundra at 34,000. Mid grade truck. Premium wheels, back up camera, clothe seats, no navigation simply bc my phone is easier to use. Anyway I purchased it for 34,000. I just checked prices for the 2019 and the lowest I see with atleast the premium wheels is 42,000. Of course they claim this to be sale price. I always try to negotiate the price down so id assume a guy could get 4 to 6k off.

    We did just purchase a new Mazda CX-5 for 34000. Its the most loaded one you can get get. We looked at ford's escape and my wife was ready to purchase but I researched too many to just purchase the first vehicle she drove. After driving the Mazda she was in love. Truth be told the only reason why we got her a new car is b/c my niece who we are guardians of got her license so it made sense to let her drive the 2012 fusion and get my wife a new car.

    I generally want to keep our purchasing price at 34k to 38k. So far that philosophy has served me well. I have been tossing the idea around about trading my truck in. I believe if you own a business you write off the entire amount the first year so that is very appetizing.

    Like many of you I have scoured the dealer lots looking at new stands and I'm blown away about how much they are now days. I hear people taking 8 years loans. Crazy!! People buying everything on credit Crazy!! It is what it is. The next recession will be a bitch.
     
  18. 1950StangJump$

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    I'm more forgiving of the car prices inflating than taxes.

    The car prices inflate because THE FREE MARKET ALLOWS IT. It is simple capitalism . . . if people are willing to pay more, than you can charge more (or increase supply). No doubt that car prices have outpaced our salaries. But, if the general population is willing to pay a higher % of its salary, than manufacturers can raise prices. The good news here, the quality and technology in these cars is increasing exponentially. I don't like the S550's because of their looks, but the technology in them (and in the Roush upgrades) is undeniably awesome.

    As for taxes? Each politician (local, state, federal) feels they have to buy votes by giving us shit with our own money (or other people's money). So, the governments get further in debt and tax rates keep going up. Just yesterday, I got a notice of increase in my real estate taxes. The assessment of my home increased, which should account for any increase in the expense of Government services -- I found that reasonable. But, then they also raised the tax rate on the value of the house. That is nothing more than politicians trying to get their hands on more money.
     
  19. Pentalab

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    Calculate out how much interest you will pay on say a 2018 loaded Mustang over the next 8 years. If you don't like the price of the car, you sure as heck won't like the price of the car + 8 years worth of interest.
    Besides, in 8 years from now.... the car will be worth dick.
     
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  20. JJ427R

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    Our economy runs on credit, if we didn't have credit our economy would fail. It's not we have credit that is the problem, it's people need to understand they can't spend more than they make and kids now days just don't seem to understand that.
    I hear people bitch about student loans and not being able to pay them off. It's not like student loans are a new thing. In 1980 they had student loans, I took them out to attend vocational school, knowing I had to pay them off, which I did. I didn't buy my first new car until I was over 30 years old and didn't buy my first house until I was 35, nothing until I could afford to do it.
    With the internet and our get everything overnight attitude now kids are growing up not being able to wait for anything. Between that and everyone gets a trophy our kids now are screwed.....