3v heads

[*JZ*]

I do to and BBR makes nice parts . I am just busting balls agian . LOL!

Ball busting at it's best!

It's all fun and games until someone runs out of midol

 

[pacettr]

I don't want twice the air velocity. I want twice the air flow by volume. CFM not F/sec. They aren't the same thing. I assume that was a mistake?

If you want increased velocity, breath through a straw.

Actually....you want as much of both as you can get. There are differing applications where you'd want or need more of one than the other. Sounds like you might know that already.

Werd
Velocity can be manipulated.


CFM > fps

 

[05stroker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_flow_rate

 

[ZmanM3]

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[THA1]

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[Blazing Saddles]

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Wanna see how the Pitchman gets outta this one.

 

[ChevyKiller]

That applies to every engine, Mark. Not just the 3V.

of course

Only because you went about it the wrong way. No offense, Mark, but even you have to admit you did things kinda screwy on this build before you finally decided to just build it like a race car.

No offense taken - you are 100% right. That stupid 'daily driver' nonsense was an expensive lesson for sure...

Even the 'screwy' things aside, it is damn hard though and I'd bet the farm that very few have a handle on what it really takes on the 3V.

 

[06Roadstarman]

Although I appreciate the intent behind the comment, I have to agree here that the level of service should extend to every customer and every order.

From what I have seen, It is my opinion that Livernois has done this however from the vast majority I have seen making comments about their dealings with them.

Having said that, I also own a business, and although I'd like to give everyone equal attention, it is a fact that if my time is running thin, a customer that spends 20K a month with me is going to get taken care of before I deal with a $500 one time customer. Jut the realities of business unfortunately.

But on a whole, every customer is important...

Absolutle truth here. For the last 10-20 years the "politically correct" thing to say was that we are all great and there are no losers and everyone is equal.........well that is total horsehit and history proves it. We assign priority/ranking in almost everything we do. In business, you always give priority to the bigger spenders.......always. We have customers that spend 10's of millions and some that spend 10's of thousands. When it gets down to nut cuttin time and we have limited resources, who is gonna get the priority on face time? That is just good business sense. Now that don't mean we blow the other customer off......but the level of service they receive is a bit slower and they may not get as much "free shit" or extra care either. Just the way of the world.

 

[bigray327]

Just the way of the world.

The way of the world should be to hire more employees so regular people can get a damn phone call returned.

 

[white05gt]

The way of the world should be to hire more employees so regular people can get a damn phone call returned.

That is very true, the way the shops keep expanding, we all know they could afford another person. BTW, I am not directing this at any shop in particular.

 

[US-1]

...very few have a handle on what it really takes on the 3V.

 

[SD07GT]

The way of the world should be to hire more employees so regular people can get a damn phone call returned.

(lol) you would think ! Its all about bottom line dollar , but sometimes they would rather let tens of thousands of dollars walk out the door instead of hiring staff at the lacking positions to help them grow there business.

overall my impressions of day to day operations of many speed shops are pretty poor. They are lacking the business side or the automotive know how side , its usually one or the other . Very few shops have both and when they do good things come out of it until they need to expand there business and at that point they need to be on there game day @ night and the experience can be overwhelming for the owner or owners all at once.


For an example In southern California I deal with an awesome shop that is very knowledgeable in the 4.6 modular motor program along with the best tuning I have dealt with in twenty years . Being a two to three man shop at times its almost impossible to get an appointment within three to four weeks. I will wait because I know what best but you see allot of people leaving going else where (money walking out the door ) !

If they had a salesman to speak with the new customers that are coming in an explain why they are busy and the ins and outs of doing things correctly they could save allot of the customers that are walking out and looking for another speed shop but they don't want to hire a quality individual to do the job because it effects the bottom line dollar .


( IT TAKES MONEY TO MAKE MONEY) !

 

[MexGT]

For an example In southern California I deal with an awesome shop that is very knowledgeable in the 4.6 modular motor program along with the best tuning I have dealt with in twenty years . Being a two to three man shop at times its almost impossible to get an appointment within three to four weeks. I will wait because I know what best but you see allot of people leaving going else where (money walking out the door ) !



( IT TAKES MONEY TO MAKE MONEY) !

ugh... sucks that I'm 99%sure of whom you`re refering to.

 

[stkjock]

its very difficult to balance the number of staff with the level of business one may have on any given week/month. as a business owner you cannot let your overhead get too large and cause you to lose money when times are lean, then you run the risk of having no business at all.

easy to say...... hire more people.... not always practical, especially when your business is at all seasonal.

 

[DirtyDogOfTheDesert]

Here's a business idea thats cheaper than hiring more people.....

How about always having at least a few sets of heads in stock built ready to ship? When your big customers call, or guys like 07torched... having problems like he did, they are not waiting 2 months for a replacement set?

I know from a business perspective inventory costs money also, but come on. Waiting around for parts sucks, and some of these bigger shops that offer multiple stages of heads etc... should not have a problem planning how many sets of each to have built between runs. At the end of the day Livernois, BBR, Fox Lake etc... all make good stuff, but when I need it, I need it NOW! I might have my heart set on one vendor but buy from another if they can deliver instantly.

 

[stkjock]

Dog - also easy to say, but how many SKUs can they keep sets on the shelves for??

if the 2V, 3V & 4v heads each have 3 variations (just Ford mind you) that's 18 sets on the shelf??? @ 1300-1400 each set??? $25K sitting.... just not very good use of working capital for most places....

just sayin............ not always so simple

 

[DirtyDogOfTheDesert]

They know how much they sell in a given period of time, and should stock accordingly. 3-4 years ago when 3v was new, I can see it not wanting to stock much, but by now they have a good idea of what they sell of each type. Some bean counter can figure out that it wise to stock one set of heads per every 25 sets sold in a give time frame for example.

It doesn't take long for word of mouth to cost someone $25k either.

 

[US-1]

Too many variations on port size, valve selection, valve spring requirement, etc, etc, etc.


Been there, tried that.

 

[alloy6ix]

its very difficult to balance the number of staff with the level of business one may have on any given week/month. as a business owner you cannot let your overhead get too large and cause you to lose money when times are lean, then you run the risk of having no business at all.

easy to say...... hire more people.... not always practical, especially when your business is at all seasonal.

Yup, Mike from powerhouse made it very clear a while back about him wishing at times he had regular jobs like us that paid the same wage and salary and at the end of the week you had the same almost guaranteed paycheck. That coming from one of the major players in the 3V racing industry, I think that's saying a lot.

 

[Fabman]

Has anybody used the ford CNC ported heads or Ford Hot Rod cams on a S/C engine?
Any input would be great.