5r55s to TR3650 swap

[skwerl]

I was so close to doing the auto to manual swap, but all the research I did showed that no one figured out how to get the cruise control to work after the swap. Do you have a plan for that?

It's a sports car. Why does it even have cruise control in the first place? Cruise control is for people who can't drive. It's inefficient and will kill your fuel economy as well, accelerating on every uphill and braking on every downhill trying to maintain a perfectly steady speed.

Supposedly the cruse control doesn't work in either 4th or 5th gear in my 6 speed T56 swap. I couldn't tell you though, since I'm not exactly sure how to turn it on in the first place.

 

[GreenTerror]

Lol, I happen to like my cruise control

 

[VectorPat]

Im running the Spec 2+ with the Spec alum flywheel. I never ran a stock clutch so I cant really compare it to anything. It begins grabbing about an inch or so from the floor. I kind of prefer it to start grabbing down low as opposed to grabbing at the top of the travel. My girls Z doesn't start grabbing until its almost at the top of the pedal and I hate it. I can tell mine tends to be grab a little hard when its cold but smooths out once its warmed up. Whenever it finally wears out I will be going to a Mcleod tho

 

[VectorPat]

As far as cruise goes, I have never tried to get mine working since my swap. I don't do much hwy driving so I don't really miss it much but there have been times where I would have used it. I do know you have to have a harness that connects to the clutch switches, the last time a looked it was about $95 from Ford and still not sure if that will make it work.
This might help too. http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50527

 

[05gtowner]

Lol, I happen to like my cruise control

It does come in handy when buzzing along at 85 on my way to Vegas. LOL

 

[RetroGT2006]

The transmission shop by me put a cheap 'stock replacement' in for me and it shattered on my 4th pass down the drag strip. The shop owner claimed to be my friend and was supposedly doing me a favor but my stock clutch was already gone in the trash and he fought me on getting my money back. Can't recall the brand name but it's a common aftermarket brand sold through the auto parts stores.

Third was an Exedy Mach 500. I was going for overkill and it worked awesome but the pedal was too heavy for me. It also engaged all the way down almost to the floor so it was a lot of work shifting gears. After 4 months I was ready to sell the car because I hated driving it. I ended up buying the T56 transmission instead. My signature picture was one of my first passes with the Exedy. It grabbed great and yanked the front wheels up.

Since I am just a bolt on car, maybe I should go with the Exedy Mach 350.. Originally I was looking at Mach 400 but I don't want it to bee too harsh for street driving on the daily.

I tried a few brands myself. The one I liked the most was the SPEC 3+. It is a hard on/off, but it will hold solid under the most aggressive acceleration I could throw at it. Had a spec three in the car with the TR6060 and the input shaft broke before the clutch slipped.

Yeah, that is extreme overkill for my setup lol.

Another recommendation for the stock clutch or Exedy. One thing I found that works well with aftermarket clutches is this http://www.shop.bondraperformanceengineering.com/Mustang-EZ-Clutch-Pedal-Extension-MusEZClutch.htm It gives you a bit more leverage over a heavier clutch.

Hmm Exedy seems to be pulling in the votes.

I was so close to doing the auto to manual swap, but all the research I did showed that no one figured out how to get the cruise control to work after the swap. Do you have a plan for that?

So far I have heard mixed reviews.. I sure hope I get to keep my cruise control, I do use it every so often.. I do take road trips in this car.

It's a sports car. Why does it even have cruise control in the first place? Cruise control is for people who can't drive. It's inefficient and will kill your fuel economy as well, accelerating on every uphill and braking on every downhill trying to maintain a perfectly steady speed.

Supposedly the cruse control doesn't work in either 4th or 5th gear in my 6 speed T56 swap. I couldn't tell you though, since I'm not exactly sure how to turn it on in the first place.

LOL, please tell me your joking about not knowing how to turn it on.

Lol, I happen to like my cruise control

Dido

Im running the Spec 2+ with the Spec alum flywheel. I never ran a stock clutch so I cant really compare it to anything. It begins grabbing about an inch or so from the floor. I kind of prefer it to start grabbing down low as opposed to grabbing at the top of the travel. My girls Z doesn't start grabbing until its almost at the top of the pedal and I hate it. I can tell mine tends to be grab a little hard when its cold but smooths out once its warmed up. Whenever it finally wears out I will be going to a Mcleod tho

Yeah I want a clutch to grab when I am barely off the floor.. Thats how my street bike is, the slightly letting out its grabbing and I am taking off fast. My buddies all have their bikes set up to grab almost all the way out and I think it feels like shit. Makes you ride clutch and slower off the line IMO.

As far as cruise goes, I have never tried to get mine working since my swap. I don't do much hwy driving so I don't really miss it much but there have been times where I would have used it. I do know you have to have a harness that connects to the clutch switches, the last time a looked it was about $95 from Ford and still not sure if that will make it work.
This might help too. http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50527

If you find that harness, please text me and send it my way man.. I really want to figure this out.

It does come in handy when buzzing along at 85 on my way to Vegas. LOL

Yeah, I like my cruise control. Keeps me out of trouble sometimes..

 

[GreenTerror]

As far as cruise goes, I have never tried to get mine working since my swap. I don't do much hwy driving so I don't really miss it much but there have been times where I would have used it. I do know you have to have a harness that connects to the clutch switches, the last time a looked it was about $95 from Ford and still not sure if that will make it work.
This might help too. http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50527

Interesting link, it sounded like the OP got his to work but he never came back to the thread to confirm it. I spent a lot of time researching this and I haven't come across anyone that got it to work.

If someone figures it out and gets it to work I'd be in like Flynn.

 

[VectorPat]

If you google Anthony05GT you will find him on several forums where has done these swaps and has some good write ups on them. He used to be on here but I dont think he is anymore

 

[GreenTerror]

These are the links I found most useful when I did my research on the swap

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0711_s197_transmission_swap/

http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/auto-to-manual-trans-how-to-guide.783401/

http://mustangcollective.com/showthread.php?t=15949

 

[RetroGT2006]

Thanks for all the links guys! Bookmarking them now.

Finally looked over the invoice from Ford to buy/install a remanufactured 5r55s.. This is what they wanted to charge me..

$3967.56 lol...

 

[LS1EATINPONY]

Dealerships have lost their minds. I went to price a timing chain replacement and they were like you have to replace all these parts and it was like $900 in parts then they were like it will be about $2000 after labor too. I just turned around and walked off when he said those stupid numbers

 

[marcspaz]

I would have said "If you didn't want the job, you should have just said so."

 

[Swarzkopf]

Thanks for all the links guys! Bookmarking them now.

Finally looked over the invoice from Ford to buy/install a remanufactured 5r55s.. This is what they wanted to charge me..

$3967.56 lol...

Holy shit. That's about the same price that my TCI 'Street Fighter' 5R55S + PI 'Stallion' torque converter + TCI hardened input shaft was. Good grief.

It's not really a hard job either, I'd do 5 S197 transmission swaps for every 1 S197 header install. LOL

 

[eddieval5]

I have the harness under the dash. It does not retain cruise control.

 

[skwerl]

Robert, look at this post and write down the part number Sam posted in the third post. You'll need that elbow and the clips to attach the clutch line.
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109604

 

[hotshots434]

I am getting ready to do this swap in my 07 Gt as for cruise it would be nice to have I spend about 8 hours driving straight down 295 on my way to mustang week cruise is nice then. Good luck with the swap though I hope yours goes nice an smooth.

 

[crownaviation]

It does come in handy when buzzing along at 85 on my way to Vegas. LOL

Or when you have a cop behind you on the highway... I miss my cruise control. Plus I am lazy lol

 

[RetroGT2006]

Ordered some more parts tonight, still haven't found much info about the cruise control but I will keep at it.. I like it for long trips across a few states.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

If you need parts I'm going from my 3650 to a 6060.

 

[RetroGT2006]

If you need parts I'm going from my 3650 to a 6060.

Sweet, thanks man! Looks like I will be picking up a few more pieces to my puzzle for the build ! Coming together nicely lol, almost have all the parts.