ABS issue? am i going to die?

[lostsoul]

A few weeks ago an issue popped up then after starting the car again it went away. I thought it was a glitch or something, but now happens more often. Basically, When I'm diving the ABS light comes on and on my message center it will say something like check tack control. The Track control button will also show off. There is not check engine light or any DTC codes to read. When I start the car gain it will go away until I drive. The car/ breaking doesn't feel any different. I checked the break fluid and its still filled at the top like normal. I have not touched the breaks or anything around that area in 6 months.. so I dont know what changed. Anyone have an idea?

 

[VTXFrank]

BRAKES! Not "breaks". Although in this case, it seems like your brakes may have a broken component.

Just messin with ya. Usually, there's a tire speed sensor that has been damaged, has corrosion or, is just plain going out. Don't worry about driving the car with the ABS system disabled or completely off. We drove cars for decades without ABS and still made it out alive.

 

[Wicked GT]

Does the traction control kick in if you are spinning the tires? Have you tried slamming on the brakes to verify the ABS works? On my old Expedition the ABS light came on and they needed some special equipment at the dealership to figure out what exactly it was. Everything drove fine but the light came on within 30 seconds after the truck was driven. They told me they needed to replace the ABS electronics... I traded it in instead as other gremlins were emerging.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

Procharger going out. Send to me STAT!

In all seriousness, check your muffler bearings. They could loosen up and create havoc on your ABS system.

TSB 0-CALL-911

 

[lostsoul]

I have stomped on the "brakes" but not tried spinning the wheels too much. I might have to take it to the dealers to get those speed sensors checked out.. I dont even know what they look like. haha

I dont have much faith on the track control anyways. It sure as hell didnt do anything when my car spun out of control on the freeway and a few times slowed me down when I was trying to speed up to avoid a car.

 

[lostsoul]

I found this

it gives me an idea where to look. The only thing I'm worried about is all these people got codes as to which side is F'ed up.. I didnt

 

[lito]

They had to use a different scanner, your X2 won't give you C B or U codes. Basically only P.

 

[Norm Peterson]

I have stomped on the "brakes" but not tried spinning the wheels too much. I might have to take it to the dealers to get those speed sensors checked out.. I dont even know what they look like. haha

I dont have much faith on the track control anyways.

TRACTION control is piggybacked on top of ABS, so if the ABS goes AWOL for any reason, you will also lose the TRACTION control. The brakes default back to being "regular brakes", and you should be able to lock at least two of them.

Worst case - assuming that there is nothing wrong with the brake hydraulics - is that an all-out maximum effort stop would take somewhat more distance. I have no idea how much further.

It sure as hell didnt do anything when my car spun out of control on the freeway and a few times slowed me down when I was trying to speed up to avoid a car.

Make it part of your start-up routine to shut it off, and learn how to control your car without relying on any of these nannies. As you're finding out, they aren't perfect.


(BTW, when you're asking about a technical matter such as this one, it really is best to use the right names for things/systems/etc. Insisting on using local slang or trying to save a few keystrokes isn't cutting it.)


Norm

 

[skwerl]

Traction control is a band-aid for the masses who drive along with their cell phone in their lap, texting and using their knee to steer. If you actually pay attention while driving your vehicle and are a reasonably skilled driver then you don't need it.

 

[panama]

I had one of the wheel speed sensors come loose once and would do the same thing. Heard a whirring sound when the light came on and it had rotated around in the slot and was getting chewed up on the gear ring. A little lock tite all the way around fixed that for good.

 

[panama]

Traction control is a band-aid for the masses who drive along with their cell phone in their lap, texting and using their knee to steer. If you actually pay attention while driving your vehicle and are a reasonably skilled driver then you don't need it.

Traction control on these cars are only nice only when it hasn't rained in months and your starting from a stop. Its not the most advanced traction control for sure but it is a band aid for poor driving skills.

 

[Flapjack]

I also had one of these things go out on me. Not sure if there is a separate ABS sensor or if the ABS system just uses the wheel speed sensors on the back tires, but something was replaced by the dealer, and the problem went away.

My car was actually stalling out because of it. Each time I stalled, the ABS light would come on. I barely got it back to the dealership.

 

[lostsoul]

TRACTION control is piggybacked on top of ABS, so if the ABS goes AWOL for any reason, you will also lose the TRACTION control. The brakes default back to being "regular brakes", and you should be able to lock at least two of them.

Worst case - assuming that there is nothing wrong with the brake hydraulics - is that an all-out maximum effort stop would take somewhat more distance. I have no idea how much further.


Make it part of your start-up routine to shut it off, and learn how to control your car without relying on any of these nannies. As you're finding out, they aren't perfect.


(BTW, when you're asking about a technical matter such as this one, it really is best to use the right names for things/systems/etc. Insisting on using local slang or trying to save a few keystrokes isn't cutting it.)


Norm

Hey Douchebag I was trying to let your post slide, but since you offered nothing but general bullshit I couldn't. I dont know who you are so it baffles me as to why you would go into someones tech thread and piss on it..

ABS and TRACTION control tied together?.. well fuck.. After the 6 years of having these cars and being on these forums that's news to me.. Ohh wait.. if I have no ABS then it acts like regular breaks which means it might take longer to stop?? get the fuck out.. wow

After that massive amount of tech you follow it up with I should learn to drive better with without the nanny systems as if you know exactly what happened.. Hummm I guess your right.. after 25 years of driving I should learn to drive 55 mph on the highway in a fucking straight line better. Thanks for the tip!

Then to top it off you come out with Ebonics over one word no one else had issues with. I guess in ALL tech threads you go into no one abbreviates or shorten words down. I guess the people at ford are dumb asses too huh..

I have that thing called a baby seat in back of me when I drive. Granted a 600hp mustang is not the greatest family car, but I am worried about the breaking system hence the post . It could be a bad wire or something that can be much worse. Its obvious you dont know what the issue is exactly or even give me a point to look at. So how about you stay the fuck out from someone tech threads unless you have something of value to offer.

 

[panama]

^ thats the same message I would get. bugged me for a week or so until I started hearing the sensor rubbing. If you need I can take a picture of the sensor, but it is easy to see. I think is the only wire going to the back of the rotor. I tried taking it to & mechanic and no codes popped up, I was going to go to the dealer and started hearing the noise.

 

[lostsoul]

It took it out to hit the store real quick and there was no issue until I got about 30 ft from the house. it did it when I was driving slow and straight. On Monday I will try to look under there. It would be nice to know which side to look at but I'm hoping its a simple wire issue like in that other website. The cars getting that age where other shit is breaking. I also have stepper motor issues too..

ill keep you guys informed.

 

[Ch4r1ie]

ABS? What ABS?

P.s. Check your fuses mate... you can have mine /\ if yours are blown, I'm not using them

 

[Norm Peterson]

You just picked on the wrong newbie . . .

Hey Douchebag

ABS and TRACTION control tied together?.. well fuck..

After the 6 years of having these cars and being on these forums that's news to me..

.. after 25 years of driving I should learn to drive 55 mph on the highway in a fucking straight line better. Thanks for the tip!

Then to top it off you come out with Ebonics over one word no one else had issues with. ..

Nothing in your thread title nor anything in your first two posts clearly separates you from a twenty-something driving his first new car. Sorry that I couldn't see what wasn't there. If you didn't have anything better to do than call people douchebags yesterday, you should have stayed in any number of off-topic fora. Tell me, do you honestly think the post I'm replying to here has helped anybody help you? Or want to?

Read on.

Your 6 year and 25 year time spans don't impress me at all. Maybe I'm new here, but believe it or not, that does not mean I'm new everywhere. The online Mustang world is just a little bigger than S197Forum.com, and the online automotive hobby world just a little bigger than that. My son is within a year of having as much licensed driving experience as you claim, so you just wasted that card too.

I wasn't going to pick on the thing already mentioned in post#2, even though that was wide open if I felt like being a prick. My point was if you're going to post some of the important stuff as slang you're going to be viewed as being less knowledgeable in general. I do more background research before posting that you're likely to guess, and came up empty when I checked your profile. That's not my problem, and I'm not going to waste any time trying to decide whether you don't have anything worth putting there or do but have been too lazy to.

Acronyms like WTF, FWIW, ad nauseum, get a pass because they aren't ever going to get confused with the real tech.

I have that thing called a baby seat in back of me when I drive. Granted a 600hp mustang is not the greatest family car, but I am worried about the breaking system hence the post.

Been there, done that, and doing it all over again with their kids. Maybe not with 600 HP, but with enough to cause plenty of trouble if I let myself get sloppy.

I told you what to do. It's up to you whether or not you want to listen or even hear it. I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me, but let the advice stand on it's own merit. Sometimes the best learning comes from the most unlikely places. Sometimes from even the least wanted sources.

I can also tell you from having at least a 22 year longer view than yours that you shouldn't ever count on anything but your own skill set when driving. Dunno, maybe one of those skills should be the ability to drive in a straight line at 55 - and not asking more from your tires than they are capable of giving. Even with 600 HP, the throttle is not an "either/or, off/on" switch.

I've got the driving record to back that ( ↑↑↑ ) up too - over my 47+ years driving I run out of incidents involving my own sloppiness before I run out of the fingers on one hand. And while I'm not a drag racer, street racer, or a fast-n-furious top speed runner, I'm not a particularly mild-mannered driver either, never have been.



Douchebag, eh? Know what a mirror is?

I don't take the gloves off very often, but for you I made a special exception. Happy now?



Norm

 

[05stroker]

ABS? What ABS?

P.s. Check your fuses mate... you can have mine /\ if yours are blown, I'm not using them

With those removed do you get the ABS light, brake light, and the "Check Brake System" message ?

 

[Ch4r1ie]

With those removed do you get the ABS light, brake light,and the "Check Brake System" message ?

Yep, I'm lit up like a Christmas tree!

 

[lostsoul]

You just picked on the wrong newbie . . .


Nothing in your thread title nor anything in your first two posts clearly separates you from a twenty-something driving his first new car. Sorry that I couldn't see what wasn't there.

So you have no info on the accident but you can make comments of driving skills?? haha I guess all the other people that had spin outs were also at fault too huh. Please continue to share your ignorance with us.

You offered nothing in your first post you moronic ass hole but insulting me. Please show me where in your first post you told me where to look for the problem or what to do other then fix my diving skills? haha

If this was a bullshit post in chit chat/pit stop then have at it, but if you have nothing to offer here then shut the fuck up. If you still dont get the hint then I will have to ask the Mods to step in.

If you still have a hard on for me then feel free to PM me or make a post in the chit chat/pit stop. If your going to be an ass at least be useful.

Have a nice day