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[ford20]

Since when is following the law being a robot, because isn't that what we're expected to do? Shouldn't the people that uphold the laws be held to a higher standard than those that break them? I think certain laws should change, however I do have to abide by them until then.

No you said that cops shouldn't have bad days. Which means you can not have any emotions and to have no emotions is to be like a robot.

 

[whoapony]

Since when is following the law being a robot, because isn't that what we're expected to do? Shouldn't the people that uphold the laws be held to a higher standard than those that break them? I think certain laws should change, however I do have to abide by them until then.

That's kinda a double standard, I mean you have a bad day, speed home and get pulled over. Some cops understand the situation and let you off with a warning if they can. You should expect the cop to have a bad day as well, in that case you may just get the ticket instead of the warning, either way you broke the law.

 

[Blxcklist]

Not always.

 

[SlowA$$5.0]

Well being involved with law enforcement for the last twenty years of my life, cops that pull people over, 90% of them deserve it, because they were breaking the law. Patrolman do their job right and that's to protect and serve the streets. They aren't detectives that actually work cases like what you stated on beating wives, etc.. That's more of their jobs not patrolmans jobs, can they work it well yea but that's why they have detectives and violent crime units and such. My dad has been in law enforcement for twenty years and I had a uncle that shot in the line of duty. I respect cops. BUT there are some that take their job to seriously, most cops give you 5 mph over or mor3 depending. I will agree with you there about writing tickets for a 42 in a 40 or such like that. But if you're breaking the law, you're breaking the law..


That's just my opinion.

Are you a LEO? You were just street racing the other day.....

Since when is following the law being a robot, because isn't that what we're expected to do? Shouldn't the people that uphold the laws be held to a higher standard than those that break them? I think certain laws should change, however I do have to abide by them until then.

I agree. I don't like the cop bashing that happens often, but I hate a hypocritical cop. That's why I would like an answer to my above question.

 

[LuckyH]

No you said that cops shouldn't have bad days. Which means you can not have any emotions and to have no emotions is to be like a robot.

Have emotions, just leave them at home. You don't need emotions to enforce the law. Last thing I need is some pissed off cop coming up to my window. I work at a bank, I deal with pissed off assholes all day (especially with this economy). It's always my fault people's accounts are negative. That being said, If someone is a dick to me right before you come in my bank, I'm not going to take that out on you.

If a cop wants to take some shit out on you he can, and we're talking about someone who supposedly is there to enforce the law. Yet they can decide whether or not they want to enforce their interpretation of the law (whatever that may be) just because their pissed off and have some vendetta. That's not right.

 

[Ch4r1ie]

Have emotions, just leave them at home.

I'm sorry, but that's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard in my entire life

 

[ford20]

I'm sorry, but that's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard in my entire life

I agree with you

 

[SonicBlur]

So what happens when a cop gets called to pull a 6 month old child out of a pool that is covered in bruises (obviously abused) and drowned to death? Is he supposed to say "Eh, just another victim." I hope not. If police DON'T use emotions, you can forget about EVER getting a warning. If you do 1 mph over the speed limit, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY SPEEDING and the cops have the full authority to write you a citation for 1 MPH over....it's their emotions that usually give most motorists a 5-10 MPH padding. I've been testing for many police departments so I have been with a few cops on calls and saying that you are not allowed to have a BAD DAY if you're a cop is completely stupid. You fuck up and break the law you get a ticket. Plain and simple. This is not rocket science.

-Mike

 

[LuckyH]

Yes you guys are right, a police officers personal matters (be it marital problems, depression, etc etc) outside of work should totally influence his upholding of laws while on duty. Because that's more reasonable??

 

[SonicBlur]

No, it's human nature. It is physically impossible to go on about your day if you're going through a divorce or something without thinking about it. I don't understand how you think a person can just shrug off some major event in life for 8 hours and have it not affect them in any way?

-Mike

 

[irishpwr46]

its really not that hard to leave your personal bullshit out of the workplace. granted, everyone fights with their significant others and has bad days, but thats no reason to make someone elses life difficult. we used to have a guy come to work about once every other week in a bad mood. thats fine and all, but his production would be zero. i would be trying to climb a ladder with a 10 foot length of 4 inch steel pipe on my shoulder, and he would be staring out the window, not caring about anything. when he would be called out on it, he would get all pissy and storm off. thats fine and all, but now how the fuck am i supposed to double my output to try and make up for him being an asshole? especially when it takes two people just to get the job done. and what do i tell my foreman when he asks why the job wasnt done? "oh well dennis is having a bad day and his vagina is all sandy. we will try again tomorrow when he is feeling better." nobody wants to hear excuses, and now my job is in jeopardy becuase some asshole couldnt coax a blowjob out of his wife the night before.

 

[LuckyH]

So what happens when a cop gets called to pull a 6 month old child out of a pool that is covered in bruises (obviously abused) and drowned to death? Is he supposed to say "Eh, just another victim." I hope not. If police DON'T use emotions, you can forget about EVER getting a warning. If you do 1 mph over the speed limit, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY SPEEDING and the cops have the full authority to write you a citation for 1 MPH over....it's their emotions that usually give most motorists a 5-10 MPH padding. I've been testing for many police departments so I have been with a few cops on calls and saying that you are not allowed to have a BAD DAY if you're a cop is completely stupid. You fuck up and break the law you get a ticket. Plain and simple. This is not rocket science.

-Mike

I'm fine with getting tickets for actually breaking the law, I'm just not happy with the laws themselves.

...And for the situation above, I'm not saying that cops don't have emotions. I'm saying they shouldn't let emotion affect how they react to an unrelated incident. For example, if the police officer above continued his beat and later that day he sees a parent spanking a child for doing something bad. I wouldn't expect the police officer to take into his own interpretation of the event and arrest the parent for child abuse just because now he's super sensitive to any child being struck in any way shape or form.

 

[SonicBlur]

Well then maybe some people can just shut it off, but some can't. I don't want to wish bad on anyone but when someone close dies or something happens, I'd like to see if you can operation with 100% efficiency and have nothing come between you and a good days work.

-Mike

 

[LuckyH]

Well then maybe some people can just shut it off, but some can't. I don't want to wish bad on anyone but when someone close dies or something happens, I'd like to see if you can operation with 100% efficiency and have nothing come between you and a good days work.

-Mike

Hence why there is something called grievance at most companies where you take time off. And police offers have plenty of psychiatric assistance available to them if they request it. Maybe the ones who can't deal with it (and I wouldn't expect everyone to be able to) should move to a different department/job type.

 

[SonicBlur]

I'm fine with getting tickets for actually breaking the law, I'm just not happy with the laws themselves.

...And for the situation above, I'm not saying that cops don't have emotions. I'm saying they shouldn't let emotion affect how they react to an unrelated incident. For example, if the police officer above continued his beat and later that day he sees a parent spanking a child for doing something bad. I wouldn't expect the police officer to take into his own interpretation of the event and arrest the parent for child abuse just because now he's super sensitive to any child being struck in any way shape or form.

Striking anyone in public is not legal, maybe some states allow the physical beating of a child to conform to your requests but that's definitely not legal here in Chicago. That parent would most definitely be arrested. I would hope the cop would do something if a parent was beating the crap out of their kid. Besdies, you may get arrested based on the cops interpretation "sometimes" but if there is no case you will be dropped of all charges immediately.

-Mike

 

[ford20]

I'm fine with getting tickets for actually breaking the law, I'm just not happy with the laws themselves.

...And for the situation above, I'm not saying that cops don't have emotions. I'm saying they shouldn't let emotion affect how they react to an unrelated incident. For example, if the police officer above continued his beat and later that day he sees a parent spanking a child for doing something bad. I wouldn't expect the police officer to take into his own interpretation of the event and arrest the parent for child abuse just because now he's super sensitive to any child being struck in any way shape or form.

He can't because thats not child abuse and in doing so would result in false imprisonment and then he would most likely be sued for violating the persons rights.

 

[LuckyH]

Striking anyone in public is not legal, maybe some states allow the physical beating of a child to conform to your requests but that's definitely not legal here in Chicago. That parent would most definitely be arrested. I would hope the cop would do something if a parent was beating the crap out of their kid. Besdies, you may get arrested based on the cops interpretation "sometimes" but if there is no case you will be dropped of all charges immediately.

-Mike

So you can't spank your child that was about to walk into the road because it's "physical abuse", and you can't yell at your child because that's "mental/verbal" abuse and child services will take your child away. So now you have parents with no way to discipline their kids, sounds like a bleak future. I know I was spanked when I did something wrong, and I got yelled at if I didn't do as I was told. I think both contributed to instilling good moral values. I'll make sure as to not smack my girls ass in public, don't need some sensitive ass cop to tase me for spousal abuse.

 

[whoapony]

From what I understand spanking is legal. Open handed vs closed fist and placement, ie on the face or butt is the deciding matter. Same goes for the verbal, if you are basically degrading your child then yes it is verbal abuse, but a raised voice for correction is not. Laws can be interpreted, some more than others and thats where a cop can come into play, or the Judge and jury if it goes that far.

 

[ford20]

So you can't spank your child that was about to walk into the road because it's "physical abuse", and you can't yell at your child because that's "mental/verbal" abuse and child services will take your child away. So now you have parents with no way to discipline their kids, sounds like a bleak future. I know I was spanked when I did something wrong, and I got yelled at if I didn't do as I was told. I think both contributed to instilling good moral values. I'll make sure as to not smack my girls ass in public, don't need some sensitive ass cop to tase me for spousal abuse.

Taseing someone in that case would be a break in the use of force continuum and would result in most likely being sued.

 

[LuckyH]

Taseing someone in that case would be a break in the use of force continuum and would result in most likely being sued.

I need to code my sentences in the future with [sarcasm][/sarcasm] lol.