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JeremyH

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Yeah I see how your doing it. The turbos will be level with the frame when installed so that would be my first goal is looking at that feed pipe on the passenger side and see what we have to do to get it up and level looks like it needs to go back some still as well. Raising the turbine side back till its level with raise it to the right spot judging by your pics. May have to clock that compressor cover further down towards the ground to clear your trans pan and 90 over to the y pipe etc.
 

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In general, the usable/workable diagonal distance from the outer side of the pipe to the farthest distance for the turbine is what poses a challenge in getting to fit in that space between the 4r pan area and the frame rail. And yes it could move a little farther back, if it will help in fitment.

I'll pull it back out and start getting it in places where it will fit, take some pics, and we'll go from there?
 

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In general, the usable/workable diagonal distance from the outer side of the pipe to the farthest distance for the turbine is what poses a challenge in getting to fit in that space between the 4r pan area and the frame rail. And yes it could move a little farther back, if it will help in fitment.

I'll pull it back out and start getting it in places where it will fit, take some pics, and we'll go from there?

Sounds good.
 

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YES THEY ARE GOING IN!!! I really like how that driver side fits up, nice and hi

It will fit... May need to put some bigger wheels on tho j/k

Eventually you will get it sorted out Mike. Wishing you luck

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To soon? You know you are one of my favorites on here.. I also know you are a talented mechanic. If it can be figuref out I know you are the one to get it done
 
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Ok, Jim...NOW we HAVE to fight! ...only because of the picture with those shitty wheels..on a wvb stang! hahahahaha!!!! :beer:

Nah, not too soon. We have a plan of action, I know what I need to do. We just have to look at some alternative pipe routings or some slight changes. It all WILL fit, there is room.

You can comment and joke all you want, my friend! :hi:
 

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...and I think we have a plan...

The primary issue with passenger-side fitment is due to the manifold-pipe not being able to move far enough inward toward the center of the car, due to interference with the side of the transmission where the pan bolts up to, and the floor of the car.

Here, you can see the back-side of the turbo, and at the upper-left, the pipe. There is a large space above the turbo, but it can't get in there because it hits the body rail to the right.
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This roughly where it needs to go, ideally:
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Although a more-rotated position such as this initially looked better, it would require more extensive piping modifications, and could be some issues getting the wastegate into position:
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Removing the heat shield and clearancing the floor a little, it looks like the manifold pipe can be used mostly as-is, and the turbo can be both raised up like needed and put into a good position!

And, here is the manifold pipe and turbine housing, where it is getting close to where it can be and fit in place; the pipe bend is actually sitting above the transmission pan area, allowing it to move a little into the trans tunnel, which is where it needs to go:
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Here's some experimental "body modification" to the floor to see if there can easily be enough room for the pipe, so that it sits above the pan area of the trans:
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The w/g pipe is a significant issue here, as the flange on the end is what is hitting the body; and, there is really no room for the wastegate like that, unless more of the floor is "modified" as well.
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I plan to make a minor change to the pipe (tilt the w/g pipe a little so the flange is at a better angle and the w/g can clear the floor), clean up the floor dinging, and see how it fits.
One of the transmission lines may need to be routed differently, but I won't know for sure until I make the other changes and get the turbo into place. The y-pipe cold-side may need some minor tweaking, and there's a plan to take care of that if needed.
 
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...that's some of what you have to do just to get a 4r70 under there...with any install!
Looks worse than it really is, though. Some of it was a little more that was needed, too, just to try to see if I could make things fit, if I did that.
Wait for the updates :hi:
 
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Yes steve is working on them and i told him asap and as soon as they are finished i will coat them and send them on the way. Owe well we tried on the fake cats. Wish it would have worked but it was worth a try.
 

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... I used that hammer today!!!...

Here's a couple pics, the passenger side is in place now!
Had to do a lot to get the whole thing to raise up into a reasonable position; now it is close to the same ground clearance as the driver side.

Here's some of what I had to do:
- moved the wastegate pipe end out 1" farther and angled it down 30-45*; the wastage and the pipe now clear the body. Before, that pipe was preventing the assembly from going up as high as it needed to go.
- re-routed the transmission lines (this is what I spent more time on today than anything else, as the trans tunnel needed more room for the lines how I needed to run them, too).
- removed the heat shield, initially for clearance; although, there might be room for it now; oh well, too late, it's not going back on now!

And paid a lot of attention to areas of possible contact, areas exposed to heat, etc.
Took me all weekend to get that in there where it has room all around, even if just a little (the blanket and wrap take up a lot of the spacing that was there without them).

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The only cold-side change needed is some minor changes to the y-pipe, which is being sent in for modifications. The other piping for the air filters fits as they should.

Getting those turbos to fit in a tight space is, well, tight. But they do fit, and eventually they'll be blowin' air!
 

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Glad to see you found a solution! Placement looks pretty good to me just slightly angled from normal. I sent you the address. Whats great about this location is it leaves the turbos and piping all where the oem or longtube headers and larger mid pipes are so they stay in areas designed for the heat already. The coating, blankets and wrap do a great job keeping heat in the piping and turbine housings as well, they stay cool to the touch! That trans pan and the oil pan will feel hotter lol
 
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lol.. hammer, nothing! I was actually using a small sledge today.

And jim, for shipping, I'd need about tree fitty.
 

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