Whipple 4.0L Dyno Results on the Lethal Performance 2010 GT500

[TexStang]

I'm going to throw my 2 cents in... Its pretty well known that the 3.4 doesn't really shine till you start getting into higher boost since it takes more power to turn it vs the 2.3. The same is/should be true for the 3.4 to 4.0. I'd be interested in how much it makes if they turn it up around 28-30lbs. We all know that motor will hold it

 

[Jared@Lethal]

hello? 100 Octane tune so he wasn't pushing 750rwhp at the time and with a 2.1 60'.

I ran your results by the local mustang group. No one was impressed. Sorry you couldnt have a discussion and you wanted a pissing match. Bottom line is the consumers aren't impressed.

You guys havent done any KB to Whipple comparisons at the track either so I could careless what your car does at the track. Im just supposed to believe you its gonna be better?

Funny how your story changes and your excuses come out when you're called out about how fast your dads car has been.

You keep running things by your local bench racer group. We'll be at the track doing real tests while you're still talking dyno numbers.

Bye..

 

[carbd86gt]

hello? 100 Octane tune so he wasn't pushing 750rwhp at the time and with a 2.1 60'.

I ran your results by the local mustang group. No one was impressed. Sorry you couldnt have a discussion and you wanted a pissing match. Bottom line is the consumers aren't impressed.

You guys havent done any KB to Whipple comparisons at the track either so I could careless what your car does at the track. Im just supposed to believe you its gonna be better?

So what kind of power was it making on 100 octane then? MPH tells the story of horsepower. So just rule out the ET, the MPH still isn't there for a 750rwhp car, because if the car actually gets traction with slicks, that MPH is going DOWN.

My original point was, you guys are again, way too caught up in dyno numbers. So many things can affect what the dyno spits out. When the car was stock, on the same dyno, it was about 80 rwhp lower than any other stock GT500 dyno test that was done on a different dyno. Was that the stock blowers fault? Is the stock eaton "junk"? If it runs a low MPH in the 1/4, then we can start testing other things and come to a conclusion. But saying you are not impressed with the dyno numbers and pointing fingers at the blower shows that your lack knowledge about tuning and racing these cars, or all cars in general.

 

[carbd86gt]

Adam at ST has a 2.8H on his 3v and it runs 9's all day long. Smaller motor, smaller blower. Weird

Yeah, and we sponsored a friend of ours that was running 8's in his Cobra and a 3.4L Whipple (still the only 8 second twin screw Cobra to date, and boost only). You know how much power that car made? 800 rwhp with 24 psi, car still weighed about 3300 lbs IIRC.

 

[Dex]

Funny how your story changes and your excuses come out when you're called out about how fast your dads car has been.

You keep running things by your local bench racer group. We'll be at the track doing real tests while you're still talking dyno numbers.

Bye..

LOL how did my story change? I posted what happened. Lets see a KB to Whipple comparison then. You wont because you are Whipple dealers! You are an unprofessional and very confrontational for a vendor. We just wanted a discussion but as soon as we brought up the KB you LP guys immediately jumped on the defense.

My dad is hardly a track warrior and went once for fun. You asked what it did and I told you. I only gave the conditions and what he had to work with. These aren't excuses.

Go ahead and turn it up to 28psi and blow us away!

 

[Dex]

Yeah, and we sponsored a friend of ours that was running 8's in his Cobra and a 3.4L Whipple (still the only 8 second twin screw Cobra to date, and boost only). You know how much power that car made? 800 rwhp with 24 psi, car still weighed about 3300 lbs IIRC.

How much does a stock GT500 weight?

 

[Dex]

Ok ok, you guys win. I'll go buy a Whipple now. Thanks for convincing me with ALL the evidence

 

[carbd86gt]

Ok ok, you guys win. I'll go buy a Whipple now. Thanks for convincing me with ALL the evidence

We are not saying to go out and buy a Whipple, and that's what were are trying to say about evidence. The EVIDENCE is what the car does at the drag strip, not on the dyno. Sorry that you are the one for instant satisfaction and can't wait just a few weeks for the car to make it's maiden voyage down the 1320.

We are not professional racers either, we also only raced for fun and that's our plan for the 2010 as well.

You made a comparison about ST's 3v KB car, that's why I brought up our sponsee's (sp?) car. I tried to make as close of a comparison as possible, using a 4.6L vs a 4.6L, and I'm sure both cars weigh about the same, though I'm sure the S197 may be a bit heavier. With my comparison, I was making a statement that the car didn't make impressive numbers on the dyno, but ran a number at the strip. Dyno numbers are only for bragging rights, that is it. That's my point, and I will try to end it at that

 

[Dex]

We are not saying to go out and buy a Whipple, and that's what were are trying to say about evidence. The EVIDENCE is what the car does at the drag strip, not on the dyno. Sorry that you are the one for instant satisfaction and can't wait just a few weeks for the car to make it's maiden voyage down the 1320.

We are not professional racers either, we also only raced for fun and that's our plan for the 2010 as well.

You made a comparison about ST's 3v KB car, that's why I brought up our sponsee's (sp?) car. I tried to make as close of a comparison as possible, using a 4.6L vs a 4.6L, and I'm sure both cars weigh about the same, though I'm sure the S197 may be a bit heavier. With my comparison, I was making a statement that the car didn't make impressive numbers on the dyno, but ran a number at the strip. Dyno numbers are only for bragging rights, that is it. That's my point, and I will try to end it at that

Ok, Im done.

When do you guys plan on turning the boost up?

 

[carbd86gt]

The car is going to be run in it's current tune first, to get things dialed in. Then, maybe in a couple weeks we can throw on the 3.5" pulley, Larger MAF and larger throttle body.

 

[MickeySaleen]

Dex, you are something else man...i dont even have words

you are that kid in school, "my dads car does this and this and blah blah fuckin blah"

stfu dude, your dads car trapped 121 with 700+rwhp hahaha...must have been a dyno on viagra

121 trap = ~550rwhp

 

[MickeySaleen]

Guys from lethal, lets see what that thing does at the track, keep us updated

 

[Dex]

Dex, you are something else man...i dont even have words

you are that kid in school, "my dads car does this and this and blah blah fuckin blah"

stfu dude, your dads car trapped 121 with 700+rwhp hahaha...must have been a dyno on viagra

121 trap = ~550rwhp

You can fuck right off you little twerp. I only mentioned my dads car to compare a stock GT500 with a KB to their new 4.0 Whipple dyno numbers. Can you fucking read? You obviously didnt read the whole thread. He didnt have it at 700rwhp for the track and if you read there were other conditions.

Way to be a nut swinger and not look at what was actually posted.

BTW, Evolution Performance has a GT500 with a 2.8H and it runs in the 9's. Eat your heart out!

 

[ZmanM3]

You can fuck right off you little twerp. I only mentioned my dads car to compare a stock GT500 with a KB to their new 4.0 Whipple dyno numbers. Can you fucking read? You obviously didnt read the whole thread. He didnt have it at 700rwhp for the track and if you read there were other conditions.

Way to be a nut swinger and not look at what was actually posted.

BTW, Evolution Performance has a GT500 with a 2.8H and it runs in the 9's. Eat your heart out!

So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a nut swinger? I don't have a dog in this fight, never bought anything from Leathel but I agree with them in that the HP numbers are not very important. I'm really wanting to see track footage and times myself.

 

[Dex]

So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a nut swinger? I don't have a dog in this fight, never bought anything from Leathel but I agree with them in that the HP numbers are not very important. I'm really wanting to see track footage and times myself.

No, he didn't read the thread and automatically came in to rescue LP. We were having a "comparison" discussion.

 

[ZmanM3]

No, he didn't read the thread and automatically came in to rescue LP. We were having a "comparison" discussion.

Ahh, well good to know because I'm not really agreeing with you here. But how knows what will happen when they push more boost through the car. I really want to see what the car does at the track.

 

[ALLOY GT]

Dex, you are something else man...i dont even have words

you are that kid in school, "my dads car does this and this and blah blah fuckin blah"

stfu dude, your dads car trapped 121 with 700+rwhp hahaha...must have been a dyno on viagra

121 trap = ~550rwhp

more like 125 spinning through 1st and 2nd and with out 700rwhp his car made 750+ on c16 trapped 125 on 100octane tune maybe you should read my .02 doubt your car would trap that at our elevation. Why would he need to brag bout his dads shelby his 3v made more power than the shelby with the 4.0 whipple on less boost smaller cubes and stock heads and cams.
Lethal what do you think the 4.0 will run 1/4 mile?

 

[MickeySaleen]

You can fuck right off you little twerp. I only mentioned my dads car to compare a stock GT500 with a KB to their new 4.0 Whipple dyno numbers. Can you fucking read? You obviously didnt read the whole thread. He didnt have it at 700rwhp for the track and if you read there were other conditions.

Way to be a nut swinger and not look at what was actually posted.

BTW, Evolution Performance has a GT500 with a 2.8H and it runs in the 9's. Eat your heart out!

Pull the used tampon out from between your legs, its time for a new one. You mentioned 750rwhp on c16, then you stated you ran at the track using 100 octane...dont you think that put him around 700, if not more?

LP nut swinger? I have never bought anything from them in my life, nor will I ever. Valid argument, you are the man Dex

 

[psfracer]

Okay that was interesting.

1) The Whipple 4.0L isn't even getting started with a 4.0 pulley, there is so much more potential here. Like what was stated, a 3.5 is going on once they get some miles on the motor.

2) As mentioned, with the 4.0 pulley this would be around 850rwhp on a mustang dyno. Once again that is 850rwhp without the blower even working hard.

3) No one (that tracks the car) is going to by a 4.0L whipple and slap a huge 4.0 pulley on it. Just wait until its more at home with 25, 28+ psi.

4) For what its worth, my car is 3622lbs with me in the car, I am at 604 rwhp, and I trap 134 mph. I am not sure how heavy the Lethal car is, but if I can trap 134 at 3622lbs with only 604 rwhp, just think what this car will do at 25+ psi.

5) At the end of the day its the ET that counts, and I bet once this thing is done it will surprise alot of people. Can't wait to see what it does.

6) Just for the record, I have purchased from Lethal and there service is good and I always received the right products in a very timely manner.

/rant.

 

[stkjock]

wow i cant believe I missed this thread till now....



opinions are like buttholes..... everyone's got one.....

The time slip will tell the tale............


Best on running some killer ETs Jared and crew!