Anyone using the FRPP Intake Manifold with a turbo?

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Would I be doing myself a big favor by getting the intake since it breathes better, or is it negligible under boost?

There has been a lot of talk about it flexing, but oddness aside, my only concern is if it would negatively affect a turbo system's efficiency or behavior.

I have everything else I need to hopefully hit 850rwhp.

Comments of experience are appreciated.
 

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At 707 RWHP, would have used it for my 1,000 RWHP turbo project without hesitation.
 

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I run the FRPP manifold on my 3v with turbos. Myself, I got it more for efficient A/F delivery than any potential power increase. I feel the A/F distribution is much better during boost than the stock manifold. It does flex under boost but that doesn't seem to bother anything.
 

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Picked up about 30rwhp with it iirc at 12psi. I already had cams in the car fyi. Did a same day swap on the dyno. A boosted setup 20psi or less, its a great option.
 

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Thank you all for the replies. Sounds like it's a good purchase. Hopefully American Muscle has some deals coming up. Last year seemed like the spring sales were better than the Christmas sales.
 

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Having taken a FRPP apart, the reason why it has flex is because the entire top section is essentially a shell. I have a post burried in tech somewhere with pics of it torn down. The top shell is relatively thin, so under vacuum conditions it is actually sucked in a bit. When you open the throttle and get more toward atmosphere or positive pressure, it's actually relaxing to its original shape, which is why it appears to flex/bulge when people show videos of it while tapping the throttle. I wouldn't want to see a nitrous backfire through one, but boost should be optimal. The intake runners are super short and meet at the center-bottom of the manifold. This does allow the rear runners to be fed air more readily than a stock or similar manifold, since the air has more direction changes to make in a stock manifold.

As far as good for a turbo specifically, I was always under the impression that turbo's desired long runner intake manifolds for spooling purposes. Other than that, the FRPP will surely shine in any FI system and particularly up top. BruceH has a post with some technical data regarding airflow and where the FRPP starts to out-flow the OEM.

For those who have swapped to the FRPP in their FI setups, I think the question to ask would not be what their peak gain was, but what their gain/loss was through the entire powerband, where gains started and how far did they hold.
 

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As far as good for a turbo specifically, I was always under the impression that turbo's desired long runner intake manifolds for spooling purposes.

Thank you for the info and that consideration. I will look into that specifically.

Edit:
I found a good explanation on another forum:
"A long skinny runner will hit that peak velocity early in the powerband and use its inertia to cram extra air in the cylinder down low in the RPMs where torque is favored. Above those RPMs it starts choking off flow and restricting high RPM power. A big short runner will reach that peak velocity later in the RPM band, meaning you have to rev the engine higher to get it to get any inertia behind the column of air. This also means that short runners can actually remove some low end torque from the combo because there is very little velocity in the incoming air."

That combined with JeremyH's hard work in this thread has convinced me to go with the FRPP Intake.

Looks like I will have some "brand new in the box" Steeda Charge Motion Control Plates up for sale this spring.
 
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