Learning to make fast go fast!

[stkjock]

That goop from your breather tanks, looks very much like what I get in mine, sort of peanut buttery in look and consistency?

IMO, it's typical of the fuel

 

[05stroker]

That goop from your breather tanks, looks very much like what I get in mine, sort of peanut buttery in look and consistency?

IMO, it's typical of the fuel

I have always had some, but not this much. Keep in mind I have aboutv 12 miles on this motor and that bowl of diarea.

 

[stkjock]

Ahh, how much idle time? Mime makes a lot of condensation. Usually not that much goop
I've not kept up well in the thread

 

[BruceH]

With a blown application and E85 the milkshake in the catch can is normal. Especially with short motor runs. Mine was always worst in the wintertime due to the temp swings in the motor from sitting overnight to driving, cool down to winter temps, start up, etc.

Provided that you aren't losing more oil than normal and that the crankcase oil still looks normal I wouldn't be too concerned about the milkshake.

Why do ring gaps line up like that? It hasn't happened to me but some of my friends talk about it.

 

[05stroker]

I guess I will rering with the SS rings I have coming and reinstall the SCE copper gaskets per there instructions and move on then. I'm very confused but moving on I guess you could say...

 

[crownaviation]

I guess I will rering with the SS rings I have coming and reinstall the SCE copper gaskets per there instructions and move on then. I'm very confused but moving on I guess you could say...

Have you called sce yet? They have excellent tech support over there.

And after talking to gtro... I decided to ditch the o rings. Hope I did but make a huge mistake but he is 34psi and stock mls gaskets. My machinist was the final person to convince me not to use them with the way these heads are built.. he agreed they are not necessary till boost gets to the "stupid" level (like 35-40). And he also informed me be would not touch my motor if using the isky o-ring tool

We were able to return the bhj tool thank gawd

 

[BruceH]

I have always had some, but not this much. Keep in mind I have aboutv 12 miles on this motor and that bowl of diarea.

How long does it take for the ss rings to break in?

 

[swflastang05]

I guess I will rering with the SS rings I have coming and reinstall the SCE copper gaskets per there instructions and move on then. I'm very confused but moving on I guess you could say...

I know the feeling! Not 100% sure what happened but nonetheless reassemble everything and hope for the best.

How long does it take for the ss rings to break in?

As quick as you can complete several heat cycles with them, at least 6 WOT bursts with cooling time in between so it can be done within the 12 miles.

 

[dysan]

I used to get a lot of that crap in my breather can on my last 2 engines but ever since building the iron block for my current one it has been minimal and mainly condensation with just a tiny amount of the baby crap looking oil.

My engine builder has made me a believer in the fact that a good seasoned iron block doesn't move/flex like an aluminum block does and just overall seals better.

 

[05stroker]

How long does it take for the ss rings to break in?

I have moly rings, I have bought a new set of Total Seal AP rings that have a SS top ring. I have used both before with no issues. My machine shop said the moly rings I have now are not even broke in and I should just reuse them. IDK


I am very glad I took my heads my machine shop to have things double checked. Found out real fast why I had low compression on #1. Broken exhaust valve spring. I need to get a new set after I call Comp tomorrow and see what they say. I have the 26125 springs now. Now the question is, do I replace the one spring, replace all of them with the same spring, or go with another brand?

So, it looks like I had spark blowout and the copper head gaskets didn't seal due to not following the proper heat and torque sequence and then broke a spring on the last pull.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Damn, Comp 550's?

 

[05stroker]

Damn, Comp 550's?

Yes, now what to do for springs?

 

[Department Of Boost]

Yes, now what to do for springs?

It could be the installed height giving you trouble. Springs don't like being at coil bind with that many RPM's.

Do you know what the installed height is vs what they are supposed to be? IDK where mine are at and one thing I know is springs (I didn't set them up). I was planning on checking this winter when I switch to 550's to make sure I have A.) the right springs and B.) they were installed correctly.

 

[05stroker]

It could be the installed height giving you trouble. Springs don't like being at coil bind with that many RPM's.

Do you know what the installed height is vs what they are supposed to be? IDK where mine are at and one thing I know is springs (I didn't set them up). I was planning on checking this winter when I switch to 550's to make sure I have A.) the right springs and B.) they were installed correctly.

I do not. I used them all last year to 7550 in third without issue . I never went past 5500 rpms or so on this motor due to the blow out/head gasket issues.

 

[05moneypit]

How long have you been running those springs?

 

[Department Of Boost]

I do not. I used them all last year to 7550 in third without issue . I never went past 5500 rpms or so on this motor due to the blow out/head gasket issues.

Didn't the heads get re-done since you were running it at 7550?

 

[05stroker]

Didn't the heads get re-done since you were running it at 7550?

Yes, valve job, port, and milled. Are you thinking the valve grind job could have changed it that much? Wouldn't that help the springs as they would get a little looser if anything no?

 

[05stroker]

How long have you been running those springs?

Less then 3k miles and 80 passes or so. Pretty much a year or so. I would have to look back and see when I sold Fuel my custom cams.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Yes, valve job, port, and milled. Are you thinking the valve grind job could have changed it that much? Wouldn't that help the springs as they would get a little looser if anything no?

It is pointing toward fluke, I will agree. Yes, if the valves got ground there would be less preload on the springs and they would be less likely to coil bind. On the flip side if you take enough preload off of them they won't have anough seat pressure and the valves will bounce. That bounce can break a spring. All theory of course.

If it were me, and you have time for this, I would check the installed height on all of the springs to make sure they are equal. Then I would pull the springs and check them open and closed to make sure that they are doing what they are supposed to. Could be a fluke, could be a setup issue. Could be lots of things. You will eliminate a ton of possibilities if yo check them.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Less then 3k miles and 80 passes or so. Pretty much a year or so. I would have to look back and see when I sold Fuel my custom cams.

That's kind of a lot, LOL