Sinner....(Sactown F1R) build

[Sinner]

well first and formost ... thank you sactown for the blower and i can't believe you sold it..... i feel like i stole it from ya, lol.

i would also like to thank GB10, 05Stroker, S&H, E85... a many others that i've bothered with questions and will continue to bother during this build. lol

i'm puting a new motor and sactowns blower in the car and adding a waste gate and boost controller so i can use the boost lower in the RPM and limit the max boost.

so far i have a big bore stock stroke 5.0 at 11.5-1 that was built by the SD Wheeler.... this block was passed down this board a couple times before i got it and it was near used. i did have the short block taken apart and everything checked and balanced just to make sure everything was ok.

link to original sale thread... http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70911

my heads are being ported and i'm using stock lash adjusters, stock followers, stock exhaust valves, SS intake valves, PAC springs, steel retainers, livernois lockouts, viton vavle stem seals, bronze guides.

cams are from bullet cams.... not sure of specs yet (open for input)
Cam profile suggested for 3.55 gears and good street manners with PAC spring and lock outs
@.050 duration intake 227 exhaust 243 lift 525 intake 525 exhaust LSA 114 CLA 110

running meth injection too

i'll update as i buy items....

Parts to be installed
Big bore stock stroke 10.7 to 1 or 11.5 to 1 compression
(i've been told a few different things from the original build to the person putting the engine together)
Big heavy wheels
Sactown F1R kit
Sactown Meth kit
Ported heads to match cams
Cams 227in 243ex @.050 lift 525 in and ex 114 lsa
Stock exhaust valves
Steel intake valves
PAC nitrate springs
Steel retainers
Stock lash adjusters
stock followers
BA500 MAF
GT500 TB
Ford Racing intake
Bosch 1000 injectors
WOT box
44mm waste gate
True boost controller
Edelbrock water pump
Excedy throwout bearing
Ram dual clutch 10 spline (with new flywheel)
Flowmaster outlaw mufflers
BMR sub frame connector
BMR K-member
Solid motor mount
BAP

that's all for now....

 

[05yellowgt]

What are you using for Fuel, and what kind of boost do you plan on limiting her to?

 

[Sinner]

fuel is 93 with meth injection.

boost... hoping for 14 low setting and 20 high but will depend on the motor and tuning. might run e85 in the future to get the power i want

 

[warpig12354]

Is this for the black car or the one with the custom paint?

 

[Sinner]

for the custom painted car. i'm returning the black car to stock

 

[05stroker]

11.5 c/r, 20 psi and 93 Oct?

 

[Rasmus]

11.5 c/r, 20 psi and 93 Oct?

Billy, you forgot to add ", then boom?"

 

[BruceH]

Your setup is screaming for e85. Just do it now and you won't have to redo it later.

 

[05stroker]

Billy, you forgot to add ", then boom?"

I was hoping the 11.5 was s typo if he was going with 93oct. He will have to run E85 if he is 11.5.

 

[BruceH]

11.5 is right for Manley flat top pistons and stock stroke. 304 cubic inches with a 3.7" bore.

Looking forward to the build. It's going to be something special combining the F1 and and big bore boss. Do you remember if the pistons had valve reliefs?

 

[Sinner]

i don't want to run e85. it's so hard to find. i'll run as much boost as i can for a while and upgrade late to e85.

plus, i'll need bigger fuel system for e85 and i'm not ready for that either. this build is more the i expected to do at this time. once my black car sells i'll be ready to do what the next step is in order to rech my goals. i've already bought much of what i need for my car because this motor was supposed to go into the black roush with a D1 and i wasn't going to boost it that much.... it was going to be a DD. that all changed so i'm trying to get the car going and change things as needed once rolling. i don't expect to really run high boost on 93, but i'm looking forward to see where what boost i can run with the meth.

just as a thought, what injectors etc is needed to get e85 to 700-800hp?

 

[Sinner]

11.5 is right for Manley flat top pistons and stock stroke. 304 cubic inches with a 3.7" bore.

Looking forward to the build. It's going to be something special combining the F1 and and big bore boss. Do you remember if the pistons had valve reliefs?

i don't think so but i haven't even seen the motor in person yet unpacked from shipping. i gave the motor to GB10 all packed up and he's checking all the tollerances and putting the long block together for me.

i'm just learnign as i go... which means i'm going to messing up and spending more money in the end, but i do like doing things outside the box. that's why i said F1R and high compression OK!!! lol

 

[05stroker]

I guess you could keep the boost down and the timing super low and be okay on 93 Oct. I would find some on line calculations to see where to start. Are you going to run strait meth or 50/50?

 

[Sinner]

not sure on meth, but was thinking 80% meth

 

[Sinner]

Cam profile suggested for 3.55 gears and good street manners with PAC spring and lock outs
@.050 duration intake 227 exhaust 243 lift 525 intake 525 exhaust LSA 114 CLA 110

comp cams suggested the 450 cam but with 114 lsa

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

Time to buy a barrel of Torco.

 

[BruceH]

Cam profile suggested for 3.55 gears and good street manners with PAC spring and lock outs
@.050 duration intake 227 exhaust 243 lift 525 intake 525 exhaust LSA 114 CLA 110

comp cams suggested the 450 cam but with 114 lsa

Make sure you know what the piston to valve clearance is going to be before ordering cams. This is why I asked if there were valve reliefs in the pistons.

 

[Sinner]

Make sure you know what the piston to valve clearance is going to be before ordering cams. This is why I asked if there were valve reliefs in the pistons.

ok, i'll shout at get on it... i know pics are in the for sale thread i bought this block so i'll search.

motor details in original sale thread. he states 10.7 to 1 but i've been told it will be 11.5 to 1...
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70911

 

[Dillon Dollar]

Im jelly

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[weather man]

Time to buy a barrel of Torco.

1 quart per tank would be some cheap insurance.