Mustang Times August 2025 Article on 4.6l 3v: engine issues

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Has anyone read the July 2025 issue of MCA’s Mustang Times about the 4.6l 3v engine by Jim Smart? Very scary. Jim notes a number of issues attributed to the 3v engine specifically, including but not limited to the timing chain/(plastic) guides, insufficient oiling, oil pressure, etc.

I have a 2008 Shelby GT-C with 12k miles and have had no issues. Has anyone experienced any engine malfunction? What kind of oil is recommended? What preventative maintenance should be done?

Help me feel better about the future of my modular 4.6l, 3v engine. Thank you.
 

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I’ll going out on a limb and say your production 4.6L 3V with only 12,000 miles on it has nothing to worry about. Depending on how hard it’s been beat on! There are a couple upgrades that are pretty common and beneficial. FORD upgraded the cam followers (rocker arms) after the engine was out of production and the new style is supposed to control oil better. I run them and have no complaints. A hi-volume oil pump is a good idea. A common choice is a GT 500 pump with a steel cover plate that will not flex and some like billet gears in the pump as well. The tensioners can be debated forever. The plastic ones work for general use and the metal ones work also. Both can have problems when racing and banging off the rev limiter. As to oil, use the best full synthetic oil you can get in the weight recommended for vehicle. I run Mobile 1 10W30 and change it around 2,500 miles. But I beat the hell out of my Mustang. Nice car by the way!
 

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Has anyone read the July 2025 issue of MCA’s Mustang Times about the 4.6l 3v engine by Jim Smart? Very scary. Jim notes a number of issues attributed to the 3v engine specifically, including but not limited to the timing chain/(plastic) guides, insufficient oiling, oil pressure, etc.

I have a 2008 Shelby GT-C with 12k miles and have had no issues. Has anyone experienced any engine malfunction? What kind of oil is recommended? What preventative maintenance should be done?

Help me feel better about the future of my modular 4.6l, 3v engine. Thank you.
There only thing scary and even then, only for little children and old ladies, about the 4.6 3V engine is the soundtrack once you get into that 3500-6500rpm sweet spot! :lol:
The internet is notorious for exaggerating its flaws. No engine is without them but the 3V will go past 300k miles with proper care and maintenance. So what are its flaws?

1. Cam phasers. Known to fail if the engine spends extended periods close to the rev limiter. Phaser knock in itself isn't catastrophic but it'll cause driveability problems due to over-retarded cam timing.

2. Timing chain tensioners. High mileage and age will eventually cause the gaskets to leak, resulting in a slack timing chain that will eat through the guides and break them. I recommend replacing the whole timing set at 150k miles.

3. Cam followers. The original ones can experience oiling problems with the roller bearings, eventually causing them to seize. If that happens, you'll hear a noticeable tapping sound under the valve cover as the seized cam follower begins to eat into the corresponding cam lobe. Do not neglect if that happens. Ford Performance released updated cam followers after the engine went out of production.

4. Oil pump. The stock unit is reliable and durable but extended high rpm use can cause the aluminium backplate to flex, resulting in a drop in oil pressure. The 13/14 GT500 oil pump is a direct swap and has a steel backplate that solves this problem. You could swap in billet oil pump gears to make it completely bulletproof.

5. Connecting rods. The stock powdered metal units are fine in N/A and mildly boosted applications but anything over 450rwtq is flirting with the risk of bending or breaking them. The Gen 2/3 Coyote OEM forged rods are an inexpensive upgrade and are rated up to 700hp. Otherwise go for a set of forged H beam rods.

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There are strengths and weaknesses in all engines. The 4.6 has them too but it can easily be upgraded for even more performance & durability.

Enjoy your ride, life is short!
 

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Having owned 4 different 3vs, two of which are the horrific 5.4 3v that are currently running at 250k miles with no issues, a third of which was a 4.6 3v that had 130k miles of hard runs up to 6800 RPM without breaking a sweat, the 3v is a very stout motor. As long as you change the oil on time with good quality oil, it will treat you well.

The only very real issue is the two piece spark plugs breaking in the head. My current 07 GT had one of the original plugs break, but it’s common enough that it’s really not a big deal. And once you change them to the updated plugs, you are good.
 

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Great to hear - thanks for the information. If I may inquire, what oil/filter to you use in your '06 GT?
 

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... Wix or Motorcraft Filters. I think these are the best filters around. As for the oil... I always use 5w30.. full synthetic from Shell. Helix Ultra is a GTL Oil..A3/B4 oil. Good stuff.. even Ferrari uses Shell Oil.
 

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WalMart has MC 820s filters and Super Tech Full Synthetic SAE 5W-30 Motor Oil, 5 Quarts for $18.64. Not sure why people spend the big bucks on oil. Read the tests that are readily available on line.
 

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Motorcraft FL-820S oil filter and Mobile 1 full synthetic 5W-30 in all my cars.
 

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Motorcraft FL-820S oil filter and Mobile 1 full synthetic 5W-30 in all my cars.
How often do you change it? Since the Supertech is so cheap I change it at 4000 miles. Same mileage I have always changed the MC semi synthetic 5w-20 that I have always run in my 2004 F150 and the Mustang up until their last changes.
 

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This video convinced me to go to 5w-30 full synthetic over 5w-20 MC semi synthetic.
About a minute in is where he explains why the higher viscosity is needed.

 

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Don’t give her too much boost and she’ll be fine. My stock internals lasted a surprising 20k miles on 9lbs making 475whp. But when she went, she blew up good. Check out the rod hanging out of the block last pic, nice bend to it besides being snapped like a twig LOL
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I put about 5,000 miles per year, so I do a full service (oil, fuel filter, lube, rotate & balance, etc.) around December or January.

I get the 5qt jug of Mobile 1 for $20-25 with coupon. Since at one time I had three 4.6L Mustang GT's in the stable, I bought a case of the FL-820S.

My little 5.0L coupe uses a different oil filter... ;)

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