One More #8 Kids!

[fdjizm]

Do check out the issues section first, good times...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70

 

[702GT]

Didn't the Termi's have the same issue? Didn't they correct it with a rear block coolant cross-over? Possibly the same issue? At the very least a coolant mod couldn't hurt the coyote's chances. I doubt it's an AFR distribution issue, it's probably just too hot in the back for the timing and fuel getting pumped in. Anyone try running individual EGT to each manifold runner and datalog? Would definately prove if it's detonating because of cooling failure.

 

[19COBRA93]

Yes very similar to the issues with the modulars. The real issue with the Cobras were the piston to wall clearance was pretty tight for a boosted car. When pullied/modded, and pushed hard, the pistons would heat up and just didn't have enough room to expand so they'd scuff the cylinder walls. This would break ring lands, and peel the tops of the crowns right off. Cylinders 7 and 8 were generally the first to go because they were the hottest. I think we have a similar situation here.

 

[GrabberBooGT]

Yes the motor absolutely has to come out. I don't know what labor rate would be through a shop (a lot), but I personally would charge about $1200 to do the work on the side, not including parts. The work is really not much different than a 3v.

Timewise, the only differing part of this motor over a 3V, is to get the head bolts out/in, you have to remove the camshafts. A 3V you just work around them.

So, if I'm reading this right, you can reinforce the motor for somewhere around $2000-$2500 (Parts and labor, with arguably a good deal for the labor), then boost away without fret? Sounds like a wise expenditure before adding the SC . . .

Now, if only you lived somewhere closer to the East coast.

 

[19COBRA93]

So, if I'm reading this right, you can reinforce the motor for somewhere around $2000-$2500 (Parts and labor, with arguably a good deal for the labor), then boost away without fret? Sounds like a wise expenditure before adding the SC . . .

Now, if only you lived somewhere closer to the East coast.

Yes. But to be clear, the prices I quoted are "employee price". Retail would be quite a bit higher. If you have a "hookup" at a dealer (me), then those prices are good.

Note: Prices are subject to change at any moment, and most certainly will. They're cheap right now because they're new. Any day now they'll jump in price and it'll be no longer affordable.

 

[drewzx3]

http://forums.themustangsource.com/f726/my-2012-5-0-drag-strip-first-time-pics-inside-496771/


read post 7 looks like he has more than one tune.

 

[BlackOut2k11]

Interesting, I wonder if his tunes accomidated the LT headers. Because that will throw everything out of whack if he didn't tell Brenspeed/Steeda about the Long Tubes.

 

[WTFchuck]

yes this is the 4th brenspeed tune ive seen go. i had a link to all of them in a differetn thread ill have to try to find it on another forum

 

[BAKnBLK2010]

Interesting, I wonder if his tunes accomidated the LT headers. Because that will throw everything out of whack if he didn't tell Brenspeed/Steeda about the Long Tubes.

You don't have to change anything in the tune when adding long tube headers on these cars.

 

[drewzx3]

yes this is the 4th brenspeed tune ive seen go. i had a link to all of them in a differetn thread ill have to try to find it on another forum

who is to say the steeda tune didnt cause the problem?

 

[BlackOut2k11]

You don't have to change anything in the tune when adding long tube headers on these cars.

Really? I thought you had to make some adjustments because of the upstream O2's being further down the pipe. At least I remember that being true on the older cars.

 

[Rob72]

Really? I thought you had to make some adjustments because of the upstream O2's being further down the pipe. At least I remember that being true on the older cars.

The wideband makes adjustments on it's own. This PCM is smart.

 

[302]

LOL, guess what else i found.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/f726/i-need-help-reading-oil-level-my-5-0-a-495945/

Could it be coincidence? Some 5.0's have been having oil consumption problems, do you think this could be a catalyst to the dreaded #8?

 

[Rob72]

Nice

 

[05stroker]

I agree. I've rebuilt a 5.0 using the Boss parts, and I've got a brand new Boss shortblock here (that's going in the classifieds soon) that's a nice piece of work. I think Ford should have gone that route in all of them.

Yea, its not like we wouldnt buy the damn car if it was $1000.00 more ! I know they want to keep cost down but, that is all the mustang has ever lacked over the others is a solid power plant from the factory. We have been trying to keep up with bigger more powerful engines for years .

 

[BruceH]

LOL, guess what else i found.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/f726/i-need-help-reading-oil-level-my-5-0-a-495945/

Could it be coincidence? Some 5.0's have been having oil consumption problems, do you think this could be a catalyst to the dreaded #8?

Or a precursor, like a broken ringland.

 

[unas2k5]

GUYS, that's my 2012... I was just linked here from the mustang source were I posted.

2012 Mustang 5.0 6M
About 8,000 Miles
LT headers, full exhaust,CAI and Tune...
I was driving 35-40 MPH when this happened. There was no "spirited driving" going on. I've only read 1 page on this thread... will answer questions I can in a second...

Thanks

No, i'm just not the one(red candy 5.0) that has been extensively beating this issue down everytime i read about it on another messagebaord then post about it on the other boards. I did a little digging about the guy in the newest #8 thread and apparently he's installed a TR6060 in the car. Then when i dug a little deeper and beyond him commenting on how nice cars are, and his TR6060 swap he posted a video of him beating the car while street racing. So i can gather(my opinion) that the person who blew the engine really has no regard for the car in the first place, and/or has a lot of money and does not care if he or she breaks something. I just want to know how these cars were being driven prior to failing, and no one is really coming out and stating what happened prior. I don't see this issue cropping up on a mustang that has a tune and the owner uses it for a grocery getter while driving it "spirited" as some call it.

FYI: The car in question in this thread on the #8 is kona blue.

Please link me to a video I posted "beating" on the car? I posted a video racing a yellow Mustang Steeda. I don't think that's beating on the car. Who hasn't raced someone with their car?

Interesting, I wonder if his tunes accomidated the LT headers. Because that will throw everything out of whack if he didn't tell Brenspeed/Steeda about the Long Tubes.

Yes, they know about the LT's.

 

[05stroker]

What are some companies people would suggest to get a block from? BBR, MMR, livernois, etc? Just curious, might just get that done while putting the blower one.

Who is this MMR cocksucker you speak of ?

A Brenspeed race tune will get you through the traps at over 114 mph. It just might not get you home lol.

Or one of the other tunes ran before them.

GUYS, that's my 2012... I was just linked here from the mustang source were I posted.

2012 Mustang 5.0 6M
About 8,000 Miles
LT headers, full exhaust,CAI and Tune...
I was driving 35-40 MPH when this happened. There was no "spirited driving" going on. I've only read 1 page on this thread... will answer questions I can in a second...

Thanks

Please link me to a video I posted "beating" on the car? I posted a video racing a yellow Mustang Steeda. I don't think that's beating on the car. Who hasn't raced someone with their car?

Yes, they know about the LT's.

Finally, maybe we can get some facts ! LOL

 

[302]

Please link me to a video I posted "beating" on the car? I posted a video racing a yellow Mustang Steeda. I don't think that's beating on the car. Who hasn't raced someone with their car?

Well i've had my share of racing, but not on a public street fast and furious style......



If you're stupid enough to do this, i'm sure you're stupid enough to do other things to the car....

 

[drewzx3]

Did the car have the engine tick or anything?