Worth it for the n/a guys? You decide...

[freebass55]

I brought my car to RET the other day to get my CMCV deletes installed and get the car retuned. I kept hearing about how you lose some power and torque at the low end, and I was kinda skeptical about doing this. I had a base rune of 301.63 hp and 312.32 tq. After the install, I ended up with 306.03 hp and 317.40 tq. Not a huge improvement, but I was very surprised that my new tunes curve was higher throughout. I lost zero power anywhere. In fact I gained. I will post my dyno graph when I get the cable to my camera later on.

I would also like to thank Greg, again. I always have a great experience when I go there. And there seems to be a ton of people coming by just to shoot the shit. And no talk of blown engines.

It was great to meet you, too, Ed.

 

[ZmanM3]

Cool, I think it would be worth it.

 

[freebass55]

Graph...

 

[Bingo]

I think so too - I almost feel a turbo lag when I go WOT at lower RPMs...once it hits a certain RPM, I feel a distinct difference when the plates fully open. I think they're a good idea at partial throttle, loping around...but not when you punch it.

 

[matt texass]

ya i put mine on and I feel that they were worth it

 

[TexasKyle]

Is a tune needed when you remove the plates, or were you going to get a tune anyhow? I had considered doing the delete option myself, but not if it needs a tune.

 

[TexasKyle]

I think so too - I almost feel a turbo lag when I go WOT at lower RPMs...once it hits a certain RPM, I feel a distinct difference when the plates fully open. I think they're a good idea at partial throttle, loping around...but not when you punch it.

I know what you mean, I feel it too. You can actually hear and feel it when it really picks up.

 

[matt texass]

needs tune

 

[swoosh-stang]

Your pull starts at like 3200, you wouldn't notice a reduction in torque at that high of a RPM.

 

[Charlie Sheen]

For the price of the delete plates you can't beat the gains. As far as losing torque at or near idle, who cares? That's not when you need it.

 

[jumpinjoe]

Nice numbers!

 

[TGJ]

I thought they were worth it when I did mine. I have heard that you lose low-end power with these but every dyno-graph I have seen with them, the cars did not lose anywhere. Your peak gain was 5 RWHP, but it looks like you gained 10 in spots...

 

[white07]

I can feel my car wake up around 4K rpms when im at WOT since ive added the delete plates.

 

[MrClean]

I think the point of the CM plates is for partial throttle application, which where 80% of the buyers spend their time. Probably only 20 drive WOT like we do.

 

[Quiksilver]

I have a question regarding the tuning as I am about to add mine. Does it need a special tune?

I have a CAI and tune from Steeda and last I heard was that the same tune could be used for the delete plates. Is this true or is a different tune needed for it?

Thanks

QS

 

[ZmanM3]

It should be a different tune for delete plates. Your tuner may have came with the tune though.

 

[TexStang]

I heard once upon a time of a guy's mileage dropping really steeply after the install of these...is that just a fairy tale?

 

[jumpinjoe]

I averaged 23.9 mpg coming back from RET doing about 75mph.

 

[freebass55]

I don't think I have ever been above 20 mpg in this car.

 

[Charlie Sheen]

I heard once upon a time of a guy's mileage dropping really steeply after the install of these...is that just a fairy tale?

Maybe because his foot got a whole lot heavier. Otherwise - a Fairytale, just like Ted.