CammedS197
forum member
Hey guys,
First I'm curious if we have Hypereutetic pistons in the 4.6 3 valve or cast. I believe it's hyper.
Now just wanting to discuss the limits of "cast", "hypereutetic", And the different forged pistons along with the many different types of forged pistons.
Also has anyone done like a serious budget build on their 3valve and kept the stock pistons and just swap out rods and went boost or bottle fed?
The main difference is what silicon and the strength of the metal made from and the density.
I am making a build list of parts for a refresh on my motor for 450-500HP and will maybe hit the track 3 times to see what it can do and then that's probably it. Other than that it will be a daily driver and not completely beat on but will have fun with it.
So I will definitely be using my stock crank and mostly likely boss rods. Now I also have my eyes on molnars but those are crazy overkill for me. The pistons I have had my eyes on are Manley or Weisco due to the skirt coatings off the shelf. Rings no idea yet and bearings no idea yet. But I was curious what if I kept my stock pistons or got a new set of Hypereutetic pistons? My goals arent too crazy and I will be doing 500rwhp maybe. It will have a vortech v3 intercooled.
SO has anyone kept and used their stock pistons or used any aftermarket hyper pistons for a build? Also I don't want piston noise and a tighter piston to wall clearance which is why I just now thought of the hyper piston. I know they can blow apart when over their limit where forged won't.
Are there other types of forged out there besides 4032-alloy and 2618-alloy. If I recall the 4032 has like 11% silicon and the 2618 has like 2% so it expands much more than the 4032 and the 4032 can have a tighter piston to wall clearance.
Hypereutetic is around 16% silicon and cast is around 12% and I believe it's said Hyper is a little stronger than cast.
So lets talk types and why along with limits you'd go with them.
Also if we could put bearing types and why and comparing others and why. What you would use in a daily vs a race motor or something you just want reliable OEM like but you're boosting it.
Then the different types of piston rings, what they mean by material made from and best application for each.
My goal: 450-550rwhp daily not really raced but some spirited driving with a v3 blower. Looking at it can take that power and can be reliable OEM like with reliable good bearings, rings, and just anything else. I'm planning on full valvetrain overhaul. Inspect heads and valves. New seals, springs, roller followers and lifters all OEM spec with better springs but OEM ratings in pressures.
First I'm curious if we have Hypereutetic pistons in the 4.6 3 valve or cast. I believe it's hyper.
Now just wanting to discuss the limits of "cast", "hypereutetic", And the different forged pistons along with the many different types of forged pistons.
Also has anyone done like a serious budget build on their 3valve and kept the stock pistons and just swap out rods and went boost or bottle fed?
The main difference is what silicon and the strength of the metal made from and the density.
I am making a build list of parts for a refresh on my motor for 450-500HP and will maybe hit the track 3 times to see what it can do and then that's probably it. Other than that it will be a daily driver and not completely beat on but will have fun with it.
So I will definitely be using my stock crank and mostly likely boss rods. Now I also have my eyes on molnars but those are crazy overkill for me. The pistons I have had my eyes on are Manley or Weisco due to the skirt coatings off the shelf. Rings no idea yet and bearings no idea yet. But I was curious what if I kept my stock pistons or got a new set of Hypereutetic pistons? My goals arent too crazy and I will be doing 500rwhp maybe. It will have a vortech v3 intercooled.
SO has anyone kept and used their stock pistons or used any aftermarket hyper pistons for a build? Also I don't want piston noise and a tighter piston to wall clearance which is why I just now thought of the hyper piston. I know they can blow apart when over their limit where forged won't.
Are there other types of forged out there besides 4032-alloy and 2618-alloy. If I recall the 4032 has like 11% silicon and the 2618 has like 2% so it expands much more than the 4032 and the 4032 can have a tighter piston to wall clearance.
Hypereutetic is around 16% silicon and cast is around 12% and I believe it's said Hyper is a little stronger than cast.
So lets talk types and why along with limits you'd go with them.
Also if we could put bearing types and why and comparing others and why. What you would use in a daily vs a race motor or something you just want reliable OEM like but you're boosting it.
Then the different types of piston rings, what they mean by material made from and best application for each.
My goal: 450-550rwhp daily not really raced but some spirited driving with a v3 blower. Looking at it can take that power and can be reliable OEM like with reliable good bearings, rings, and just anything else. I'm planning on full valvetrain overhaul. Inspect heads and valves. New seals, springs, roller followers and lifters all OEM spec with better springs but OEM ratings in pressures.