The "Right" Cam

[FAST3V]

right?!? I'm lost right now. Hopefully Bullet can help me figure it out.

 

[BruceH]

IDK how you would do it without removing the front cover. I also don't understand how people are doing it correctly without manual cam chain tensioners either though.

The plastic tensioners have a fairly stiff spring that will keep the chain on.

OP, you can't do it without removing the front cover. What I don't get is can't the cam maker verify the correct icl prior to shipment? If they can't then how do they know anything else about the grind is correct? It's not like we degree the crank sensor reluctor. Can you imagine if it was 10 degrees off?

Good luck with it. It's not that hard once you do it. At least with the motor out of the car.

 

[Department Of Boost]

The plastic tensioners have a fairly stiff spring that will keep the chain on.

I guess I'm just too OCD about cam timing. I made a couple of manual cam chain tensioners so I coulkd set the tension right where I wanted it and they will remain equal as well as the same tension and not bleed down at all.

But, a lot of my cam timing comes with stuff that runs belts. And you have to set them up at a different belt tension cold so it acts like it is warm. So I'm pretty "invested" in tension.

 

[BruceH]

I guess I'm just too OCD about cam timing. I made a couple of manual cam chain tensioners so I coulkd set the tension right where I wanted it and they will remain equal as well as the same tension and not bleed down at all.

But, a lot of my cam timing comes with stuff that runs belts. And you have to set them up at a different belt tension cold so it acts like it is warm. So I'm pretty "invested" in tension.

Chains and sprockets are fairly consistent in that manner. Have you ever used plastic tensioners? Even without oil they are fairly stiff. Stiff enough that I don't worry about pumping them up prior to a new motor start.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Chains and sprockets are fairly consistent in that manner. Have you ever used plastic tensioners? Even without oil they are fairly stiff. Stiff enough that I don't worry about pumping them up prior to a new motor start.

When I preload the faux tensioners I can see the cam timing change.

I've never used anything but the plastic tensioners.

 

[FAST3V]

Would something like this work for degreeing the cams?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-90000/overview/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-51800505/?rtype=10

It's been a tough subject to research.

I'm about to say the hell with it..and settle for being close enough....but it's hard to walk away from when my cam designer & tuner tell me to time the cams perfectly.