FRPP 62mm TB and manifold

[Aerofinz]

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[Deon Lee]

I have an 08 gt it’s in the shop right now getting the 4.10’s installed. I have the Ford racing manifold sitting on my table along with a gt500 60mm throttle body. I also have the hot rod cams and a cold air intake along with an sct-x4 handheld and a zex nitrous kit jetted for 100 shot. The only reason I went with the throttle body is because you can get the gt500 twin 60mm one for $189 new or like I did $85 used off eBay had to buy a $75 throttle body spacer/adapter from blowbyracing to make the gt500 tb bolt to the 3v intake. So I have a little over 160$ in my throttle body. Doubt I see much gain from the tb but for $160 why not. I’m wanting to get some long tubes next since right now it’s still stock manifolds but the rest of the exhaust is good to go 3” stainless x pipe straight out the back no cats or mufflers. Car sounds really good and honestly not too loud in the car you don’t have to yell at the passenger to hold a conversation but if you roll the windows down it gets loud quick lol. If you got the money to burn and just wanting to do something with your son I say go for it, it’ll be a fun little project he’ll think he’s gaining a lot of power and get some experience wrenching on it in the process. As far as it being too much for a 17yr old you know your kid better than we do. My first car at 16 was a 90 gt pretty much stock with just exhaust everyone said I’d kill myself yet 18yrs later I’m still here and I drove that car for 4 years with only one close call.

 

[xxsurvivalism]

Agreed, if you had asked me at 17 years old if I could handle a 400hp muscle car, my answer would have been an unqualified Yes. The same question for my 25 year old self, would have been No, and my current state with 3 kids and one 5 years away from driving, the answer is Fuck NO!
Friends and peer pressure can be a lot to overcome for someone under 20 years old.

When the S197's came out, a friend of mine had his dad buy him an '06 GT 5 speed (spoiled as all hell). Ended up plowing into parked cars drunk trying to do donuts. At 17 years old. Parked it in his dad's driveway in the middle of the night and left the keys on the hood and walked to his mom's house. Coolant and oil everywhere, overheating, front end crushed to a pulp. Don't think it had a single mod on it. Or more than 1,000 miles lol.

 

[Sactown]

I'm just going to drop my two cents right here and do can do with it what you like. As a mother I would NEVER put my 17yr old son into a race car. The stock Mustang Gt goes fast enough for a young driver. Yes I see no problem in making his car look cool and even sound nice but thats where I'd draw the line IMO he doesn't need to go faster until he's older and wiser and a more experienced driver. I understand wanting to build something with your son and thats a great thing just be careful you're not building a car that will kill him or you may find your next project is burying him.

^^ This is actually the best advice in this thread.
I remember back when I was 16 driving my dad's 1982 Mustang GT 302 and 4spd stick, near killed myself pulling out into traffic, I had just learned to drive a manual, pulled out into oncoming traffic, panicked, dumped the clutch and floored it, ended spinning a couple of doughnuts in the middle of traffic, when the car popped out of gear and came to a stop I was in the middle of the road facing the wrong way, have no idea how I didn't hit someone or something, scared the piss out of me.

 

[MrBhp]

I could never put my son in a mustang until he had several years driving experience. Even a stock one is squirrely as hell. All that being said, by the time I was 16 I had already built several high powered motors, and was street racing regularly. But I had three older brothers that had brought me up in it since I was probably 12. I put one of my cars in the ditch, one up on a sidewalk into a utility pole, and another into 4 feet of water. I was very fortunate I didn't kill someone.

 

[Juice]

I agree with the parental concerns about a new driver in a fast car. IMO, (as it has been already stated) a stock GT is "too much" first car. But I also have to point out that my mom was totally against me getting a street bike @16. But I was allowed to get one, and nothing really bad happened. Just a few spills and road rash.

So, on to supercharging, for educational purposes:
Centri vs twinn screw PD are to two basic choices.
PD - instanr power, bad for bad weather driving. A more complex install.
Centri- self contained oiling vs engine oil lubricated. Most are now available self contained oiling- simpler install. And the compressor is not heated by hot engine oil. (Only under hood heat lol)
And than the big Q: how much boost do you want? Because as soon as you "get used to it", you are going to want MORE boost.
Personally, I say keep it under 9psi on a stock engine. And be conservative on tuning.
I left out brand recommendations as I only have experience with two brands.
Stay away from Powerdyne.
My Vortech has been trouble free @8psi for 15 years. 91 GT, crate engine, 420 rwhp.
If I was to boost my coyote: Vortech, Edelbrock, or Kenne Bell.

 

[Pentalab]

I bought a brand new 1977 honda civic back in summer of 77. 1200 cc eng. A whopping 57 hp. Put out essentially zero hp/tq < 2.5 krpm. Handled good though. I had to hit the bottom of a hill at 70 mph, to make it up a hill, with gas mashed. Just back off the gas for a split second, and rpm + mph dropped asap, and never came back up. At that point, rpm + mph would slowly sink, till I almost got to the top of the hill on the hwy.... then would have to drop down into 3rd.

I let my ( 29 yr old ) son drive my blown 2010....once...with me in the pass seat.... back in 2012. Wife has driven it....once, just after I bought it ( b4 blower installed). Said it was...'too much power'..and has never driven it since.

Was never into motorbikes. I know of 7 x cohorts who have been killed on fast bikes, and several more that wiped out..or hit by cars. Lost interest after the 1st one got killed, just out of high school. His GF was killed too, both instantly... trying to outrun the cops. He lost it at 95 mph, hit a brickwall, and handlebars skewered his stomach. GF went flying over top..head 1st into the same brick wall.

One of the young guys at work..and a fellow worker, decided to leave the bar at midnight..and make the 140 mile trip back home ( they were working out of town). They barely got 4 miles...when a panel van pulled out from a hotel driveway, and hung a left on the hwy. One bike went around the panel van, the 2nd bike went right through the panel van, right behind the van drivers seat. Bike came out the other side of the van..along with the fellow on the bike. He lost both arms and both legs. He had puncked a hole right through both sides of the van. His father was a supervisor for the same co his son worked for...and had bought him the damned bike that morning..as a birthday gift. He was only 24.

Some off duty nurse, who had just finished her shift at the hospital came upon the accident, 2 mins after it happened, and could not do very much. He died 2 mins later in her arms. Of course they were both pissed at the time..and doing 90-100 mph. I talked to the 2nd bike rider, a few years later. He quit riding bikes, right then and there.

 

[Juice]

I have my share of lost friends or seriously hurt, but recovered from injuries friends. Bikes are dangerous. I cannot stop riding over the potential dangers and what ifs.

 

[Deon Lee]

Well about an hour after my last post I got my car back from the shop having the 4.10’s put in and that’s by far the biggest difference anything I’ve done has made. I’m waiting on my jlt cold air intake to come in before I swap on the frpp intake and gt500 60mm tb but when I do I’ll come back and let you know how it went. The cai just shipped today so it’ll be a few days longtubes should be coming in today but ima do the intake first and drive it for a day or two before I put the longtubes on. Like I said before doubt it’ll gain much power but my 9yro and 3yro sons love working on my car with me and riding in it. Also have some underdrive pulleys on the way which will pretty much be the last bolt on I can buy. Guess me and the kids will have to find some cosmetic stuff to work on soon or just start on that turbo kit lol

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

With the JLT 3 CAI, underdrive pulleys, FRPP intake manifold, GT500 TB, and LT headers, you'll have a full bolt ons car (plus cams of course). The 4.10 gears are pretty much essential with that combo. No doubt you'll ask the 3V Whisperer (Lito) to take care of the tune.