My 4.6 forged build

[swflastang05]

After just checking with an old head gasket, I did go over a little bit on all of them. It isn't by much though.

It's way too easy to do! You would never think you're anywhere near the edge during the process..oh well at least its not that bigga deal.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

It's way too easy to do! You would never think you're anywhere near the edge during the process..oh well at least its not that bigga deal.

I really didn't think I did until I put the gasket on it and then was like shit! But it isn't by much, I'm not worried about it. I'm sure others have done worse and didn't even know or think to throw a gasket on it.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Well this past weekend I started to wire up my gauges for the car, made a harness out of bundled wire (7 wire). dedicated colors to negatives and positives cut this cut that, strip shielding here and there etcetera, went to hook up gauges last night and came up short. I swore to myself I left plenty of gauge hook up room, I suppose not. So it took all of 3 minutes to remove it and start over.

Luckily the two sensor wires and wideband hook up through the firewall were able to be re routed under the dash for plenty of wire to work with.

So it's been pretty slow at work so I took the advantage of making a new harness. instead of using bundled wire I used individual 14awg wire, and also put my wideband data logging FireWire in with it. threw some tech flex on it where I knew it would be the right length and this is the completed product. now I know to hook the gauges up first, run the rest and cut where needed then hook up positives and negatives.

 

[crownaviation]

I always leave a service loop (extra length for future needs) and it has paid off big time on several occasions.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

I always leave a service loop (extra length for future needs) and it has paid off big time on several occasions.

well see the first one I made I took a guess and left extra, but that extra wasn't enough lol. So after trying to hook everything up and seeing it wouldn't work the right way I tore it all out and started fresh. I made it about a foot and a half longer this time so I should be good to go with plenty of spare left over.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Got about an hour and a half in at the shop last night to mount an extra a pillar I had and my pillar pod. Got the gauges themselves hooked up the rest of the wiring is in the floor boards, I will run it next week. I am thinking I need to change the face and bezel to the white and silver so they match. other than that it's complete!

Has anyone ever had a problem with the gauges not sitting flush with the pod? I don't think I have enough room to wrap it with electrical tape to get it to stay though..

 

[swflastang05]

^^yea I had to wrap one of mine with electric tape too. I think it was my Auto-meter boost gauge.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Got in from my mini vacation yesterday, stopped at the house to drop my shit off and straight to the shop I went, finished up my gauge wiring, re assembled the interior of the car and even managed to clean up the shop a little bit.

Got home, finally gaped the new rings tops: .022", seconds: .026", and oil: minimum of .015". Also installed the main studs, by then it was time to call it quits and head in for some much needed rest.

Edit: Also my TSS oil pump gears arrived on friday, pretty cool how they serial each lot of gears. Those will be changed out sometime this week or weekend.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Question: for the wideband sensor, it is okay to use the drivers side bung where the rear O2 sensor is? Since their already turned off from the previous tune?

Come turbo time that one is easy to figure out, due to it having to be after the turbo and their is already a bung on the down pipe. But for while I am NA I might as well hook it up for tuning purposes.

 

[swflastang05]

That's where I have mine, on the rear (unused) driver side bung. Haven't had any issues with it there.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Okay, I don't mind putting another one in because I have probably 10+ bungs on hand, just didn't want to re invent the wheel if I didn't have to lol.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Well after getting out of class extra early, thought I would get the crank in and get it buttoned up. Went to check clearances with plasti gauge and got something I don't think is right.

5th Cap

1st Cap

What irritates me right now to hell and back is check out the bearing on the fifth cap, where those marks came from I have no idea. the crank was cleaned not once, not twice bit three times and everything was perfect going in, how it came out that way I have no clue. needless to say I'm pretty irritated at the moment. Calling the machine shop tomorrow to see how dead on they were on the clearances.

 

[swflastang05]

I'm sure you know Plasti-gauge isn't the most accurate method to take these measurements. Do have access to a set of mics and bore dial gauge? I wouldn't feel too comfortable questioning a good machine shop over plasti-gauge results. Either way I hope it all works out for ya!

 

[BeachMonkey100]

I'm sure you know Plasti-gauge isn't the most accurate method to take these measurements. Do have access to a set of mics and bore dial gauge? I wouldn't feel too comfortable questioning a good machine shop over plasti-gauge results. Either way I hope it all works out for ya!

I do, but they were at my shop which I forgot the other day and came home from class and forgot to stop and get them again. I am not to frustrated over it because it is just plasti guage and I know it's not accurate for shit, but should get you in the right ball park. I was targeting .0015" on the mains. But what worries me are the fine marks in the bearings, if it can't clean up with a few swipes of a fine scotch brite then I need to get a new one.

 

[BruceH]

How big are the marks?

The clearance doesn't look bad at all to me. Especially with plastigauge as previously mentioned. Let's say the plastigauge is accurate. It would mean that if those are the extremes there is only less than .0003 variation. That could easily be stack ups of bearings, caps, torque value, etc.

Edit: You answered it in your next post.

Well after getting out of class extra early, thought I would get the crank in and get it buttoned up. Went to check clearances with plasti gauge and got something I don't think is right.

5th Cap

1st Cap

What irritates me right now to hell and back is check out the bearing on the fifth cap, where those marks came from I have no idea. the crank was cleaned not once, not twice bit three times and everything was perfect going in, how it came out that way I have no clue. needless to say I'm pretty irritated at the moment. Calling the machine shop tomorrow to see how dead on they were on the clearances.

 

[swflastang05]

I do, but they were at my shop which I forgot the other day and came home from class and forgot to stop and get them again. I am not to frustrated over it because it is just plasti guage and I know it's not accurate for shit, but should get you in the right ball park. I was targeting .0015" on the mains. But what worries me are the fine marks in the bearings, if it can't clean up with a few swipes of a fine scotch brite then I need to get a new one.

I wouldn't worry too much about the fine marks on the bearings, using a bore dial gauge to check clearance will leave much more significant marks than that and that's perfectly "okay" from what I found.

 

[swflastang05]

Here's an example of what a bore dial gauge will leave behind (yes the reading should be taken more in the center, these are old pics, lol!):

 

[BeachMonkey100]

I know what it will leave behind I'm no stranger to that lol, but I'm not sure if I nicked it when putting the cap on or what I did. All I know is I'm mad at myself for it. Because most likely it will be a new bearing.

 

[BeachMonkey100]

Update: Was able to use the back side of some emery cloth to clean the bearing up. Called my machine shop, their very close family friends and know I like to nit pick at everything so I asked him and what made the night 10x better, is he says "you know what tools to use and I know you have them and how to use them properly, throw that plasti gauge shit away already" needless to say it must have just been a long day and every small thing set me off, hell I even went to bed pissed off... even after my teddy grahams lol

 

[BeachMonkey100]

How big are the marks?

The clearance doesn't look bad at all to me. Especially with plastigauge as previously mentioned. Let's say the plastigauge is accurate. It would mean that if those are the extremes there is only less than .0003 variation. That could easily be stack ups of bearings, caps, torque value, etc.

Edit: You answered it in your next post.

Completely missed your post man lol, but the marks were there they were more like nicks in the bearing, but got it out with some emery cloth, how I got them there I don't know and still can't figure it out. I will have to look into it more tonight to see if it's usable or just getting a new set. I don't like taking chances on anything.